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New Study: ‘CO2 Can Have No Measurable Effect On Ocean Temperatures’

by Kenneth Richard
5 months ago
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ocean waves“There can be no climate equilibrium state that can be perturbed by an increase in the atmospheric concentration of CO2…” –Clark, 2023

The anthropogenic global warming paradigm has a magnitude problem – especially when it comes to the assumption that we humans can warm the ocean with our CO2 emissions. [emphasis, links added]

New research suggests that the sensitivity of the ocean latent heat flux to wind speed is about 15 W/m² per meter per second, and the solar daily flux varies from 1 to 2 megajoules per square meter per day (1-2 MJ m⁻² day−1).

In contrast, the total accumulated downward longwave flux to the surface from a 250-year CO2 concentration increase of 140 ppm is just 2 W/m², which translates to just 0.17 MJ m⁻² day−1.

Thus, the impact from CO2 “can have no measurable effect on ocean temperatures.”

Not only this, but the depth of influence for downwelling longwave for greenhouse gases is only about 1/10th of a millimeter (0.1 mm, or 100 microns) at most.

Wong and Minnett (2018) insist the depth of radiative effects for CO2 is ten times smaller than 0.01 mm, or one-one-hundredth of a mm.

Therefore, the 0.17 MJ m⁻² day−1 of CO2 influence “is simply absorbed within the within the first 100-micron ocean layer and dissipated as an insignificant part of the total surface cooling flux.”

Simply put then, “there can be no ‘climate sensitivity’ to CO2.”

Image Source: Clark, 2023

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  1. Martin Cork says:
    5 months ago

    Thanks for the info.

  2. Richard Greene says:
    5 months ago

    More BS from Kenneth Richard at NYZ — a CO2 Does Nothing Nutter.

    • Sonnyhill says:
      5 months ago

      Do you believe RCP 8.5 is happening or likely?

      • Roughneck says:
        5 months ago

        CO2 has done virtually all the heating it is capable of. Doubling to 800 ppm doesn’t result in a significant temperature increase. CO2 is not a pollutant, if we continue to implement policy based on this delusion modern life will become difficult and very expensive, angering millions of people for nothing! See Dr. Will Happer’s video lecture: https://basedunderground.com/2024/01/27/carbon-dioxide-the-gas-of-life/

  3. Chris Bryan says:
    5 months ago

    A friend sent me this: “The article you sent is pretty much garbage. The way CO2 emissions warm the ocean is by increasing the atmospheric temperature which then heats the oceans, not by directly heating the oceans.” Does he have a point?

    • Sonnyhill says:
      5 months ago

      The Earth cools itself by literally “sweating” . If by solar radiation or convection (wind), warming water increases its evaporation rate. That water vapor absorbed a lot of heat, as water has the highest specific heat coefficient of any liquid. That water vapor can get pulled up to freezing altitudes, falls as ice until it thaws into rain. Almost all rain starts as snow. A hurricane ejects a tremendous of heat above any “greenhouse” effect, eventually radiating into space. I don’t think your friend has a point. The oceans are cold, except near submarine volcanic vents.

  4. Russell Johnson says:
    5 months ago

    It’s vitally important to defend the sanctity of CO2, especially when articles like this try to rescale its effects or minimize its climate impact. Computer climate models have proven CO2 heats land and sea alike; the power of CO2 is unimpeachable! Let’s stand behind and support the magic of CO2; to do anything less is pure climate science heresy!

    • James F Brown says:
      5 months ago

      @Russell Johnson, Hahahahahaha, that is some great sarcasm. That is how the socialist activists disguised as climate scientists (think Michael Mann) will be beaten, through mockery of their work and word because that’s what their product deserves.

  5. Mark Slinger says:
    5 months ago

    Great info, and more importantly, it adds to the volume of facts as opposed to conjecture. Seriously? read that the crabs in the Bering Sea off of Alaska, are dying off because of warming waters. THIS is a total joke, the water when you jump off of the boat into it, will kill you in 10 minutes it is so cold. The water at the level that crabs live and breed, is colder. The temperature at depth is at a few degrees above 32F. Any warming cannot be the cause. What IS the cause is Foreign nations raping the life out of the Ocean.

  6. David Lewis says:
    5 months ago

    We must remember that carbon dioxide is a powerful green house gas. However, most of this impact is in the first 20 ppm. By the time we get to 420 ppm, we are beyond its saturation point and adding additional carbon dioxide has a negligible impact on warming.

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