Early in the 19th century, scientists began to speculate that the Earth, surrounded by the frigid vacuum of space, was habitable because its atmosphere contained special molecules like CO₂ and water vapor, molecules that can absorb heat rays emanating from the Earth and thereby trap its heat.
That the Earth was warmer than one might expect was apparently confirmed when Kirchhoff’s blackbody concept was adopted.
Today it is considered a matter of course that the Earth’s blackbody temperature is minus 18° Celsius, i.e., around 255 Kelvin, whereas its average temperature is 288 Kelvin.
By the early-20th century, this temperature disparity started to be called The Greenhouse Effect.
NASA lists the predicted blackbody temperatures for the planets in our solar system at Planetary Fact Sheets. What’s intriguing, though, is that through the efforts of NASA and other such agencies, we now have some insight into the atmospheres of these other solar system bodies.
Here, for instance, is the atmospheric temperature profile for Jupiter.
Starting at 1/10th the air pressure of the Earth at sea level, Jupiter’s atmospheric temperature rises and easily exceeds its predicted blackbody temperature of 110 Kelvin.
Notice as well that at 1/10th pressure, the atmosphere’s temperature comes very close to the predicted 110 Kelvin.
Is this temperature increase with pressure the greenhouse effect at work?
Here is Saturn’s temperature profile.
At 0.1 bar, atmospheric temperature increases with pressure. And that temperature exceeds the blackbody prediction of 81 K for Saturn.
Is that the greenhouse effect at work?
Here is the atmospheric temperature profile for Saturn’s moon Titan.
“Tholin haze” in this chart refers to the interaction of solar ultraviolet with Nitrogen and Methane molecules in Titan’s upper atmosphere. This thick haze has a shadow effect on temperatures below, thus engendering progressive cooling with atmospheric depth – until a heating regime commences at 1/10th bar and proceeds to increase with pressure.
Is that the greenhouse effect at work?
The next temperature profiles include Uranus and Neptune.
Beginning around 1/10th the pressure of the Earth at sea level, atmospheric temperature rises along with pressure and in both cases exceeds the blackbody prediction of 58.1 K and 46.6 K respectively.
Is that the greenhouse effect at work?
Here’s the temperature profile for Venus.
In this case, there’s an exception to the rule of a temperature increase beginning around 1/10th of our sea level pressure.
Perhaps this owes to weak stratospheric absorption, which allows the lower atmosphere’s temperature to get more of a “running start” – as distinct from Titan’s profile.
Nevertheless, at a certain point atmospheric temperature rises along with pressure and far exceeds NASA’s blackbody prediction of 226.6 Kelvin for Venus.
Is that the greenhouse effect at work?
Here’s the temperature profile for Earth.
As usual, a temperature increase begins around 1/10th of sea level pressure and proceeds to exceed the 254 Kelvin blackbody prediction for the Earth.
Is that the greenhouse effect at work?
Summary
This chart is taken from the paper Common 0.1 bar Tropopause in Thick Atmospheres Set by Pressure-Dependent Infrared Transparency, by Tyler D Robinson of NASA and David Catling.
I’ve inserted the blackbody prediction for each body so that you can compare it to actual temperatures at that pressure point. For example, Venus is ‘supposed’ to be 227 Kelvin but is 350 Kelvin at one atmosphere.
Since NASA’s Fact Sheets provide no blackbody prediction for Titan, I extrapolated one myself, based on its albedo and solar irradiance at Saturn’s distance. At any rate, you can see the pattern that emerges. To quote the NASA report,
A minimum atmospheric temperature, or tropopause, occurs at a pressure of around 0.1 bar in the atmospheres of Earth, Titan, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune, despite great differences in atmospheric composition…
My emphasis. While the authors offer a few nods to the role of so-called greenhouse gases, it appears that the principal function of these gases is to impede the pressure-heating regime that’s initiated at 0.1 bar.
Titan’s atmosphere, for instance, consists of a large volume of greenhouse gases like ethane and methane.
Yet, its absorptive tholin stratosphere interrupts so much solar energy that Titan’s final surface temperature suffers from what is called an “anti-greenhouse effect” – ironically brought about by “greenhouse gases.”
As we’ve seen already, the opposite kind of stratospheric scenario seems to prevail for Venus.
If scientists of the past had known that the temperature of every planet with a sufficient atmosphere rises along with atmospheric pressure, and always exceeds its predicted temperature, do you think they would have come up with a theory that attributed extra heating to the presence of certain trace gases that occupy less than 1 percent of the Earth’s atmosphere?
No, of course not. Yet today that old trace-gas heating construct has taken root so firmly that contrary evidence goes ignored.
Such obstinacy is clearly the Greenhouse Theory at work.
http://tech-know-group.com/essays/Greenhouse_Effect_at_work.pdf
Recommended YouTube video: Greenhouse Effect is Invalidated
Do I presume this is the same as, or is, Ned Nikolov’s work?
No, Simon, in fact this is basically an update from a chapter of mine in Slaying the Sky Dragon from eight years ago.
Be sure to watch the YouTube, though.
How does air pressure increase temperature
By compression.
The surface pressure of Venus is 90 to 100 atmospheres.
Compression means a greater density of molecule, n/v
does not increase the kinetic energy KE per molecule ( temperature T)
Increased pressure p cannot cause increased T
Increased T causes increased p
Look up Boyle’s Law
For any given volume,
Increasing the pressure within that volume will
Increase the temperature.
I meant the Combined Gas Law.
As water vapour absorbs about 20% of incoming solar energy in the near infrared and 15% of outgoing far infrared I wonder by how much this warms surface air temperatures in general compared to simple heat transfer from the warmed surface to the atmosphere as sensible or latent heat?
Alan, you mention that methane is a so-called green house gas. It is not the radiation absorption is very small at around a wavelength of 8 micron. The amount absorbed by by 100% concentration of the same quantity as CO2 is less than 1/10 th of CO2. The pseudo scientists make that assumption for CH4 that it oxidises in the atmosphere to one molecule of CO2 and two molecules of H2O but it does not as at the temperature and partial pressure the CH4 molecule is stable. If CH4 did oxidise it would not be able to be measured. In the case of Titan, there is no oxygen in the atmosphere to oxidise it. There CH4 acts somewhat like water on Earth. There are lakes of liquid methane which absorb radiation at the surface evaporating some of the liquid to a gas. As the as rises it cools, liquifies forming clouds from which it can precipitate. Please note the Stefan-Boltzmann equation applies to surfaces. Gases do not have a surface and must be treated differently. However, the liquid and solid particles in clouds do have a surface. As shown in the Chemical Engineering Handbook the emissivity of clouds can be calculated.
Hi Cementafriend! Been a long time. Well, I only touched on Methane to rub salt in the wound. The EPA gives CH4 a global warming potential of around 30 compared to CO2’s 1. But with Titan, all that Methane proves pretty effective as an atmospheric coolant when it combines with Nitrogen under UV from the sun. Ho ho ho!
What with the work Pierre-Marie Robitaille has been doing, by the way, I can hardly be sure of anything that’s said about gas radiation anymore. But of course I’d agree with you that gases can’t be compared to actual surfaces. Good to hear from you.
Gravity is downwards as in the diagram
But pressure is in all directions
Regardless
Gravity does increase pressure
This is why atmospheric pressure is higher at the surface
than at higher altitudes.