Before Trenberth, NCAR Did Actual Climate Science – Based On The Sun

Before Kevin Trenberth wrecked NCAR’s reputation with his junk climate science, NCAR was lead by Walter Orr Roberts – who did actual climate science.

In 1973, Roberts predicted a drought based on sunspot cycles.

27 Sep 1973, Page 38 – El Paso Herald-Post at

The drought occurred, exactly as he predicted.


The summer of 1976 was the warmest and driest on record in England.

29 Aug 1976, Page 11 – Statesman Journal at

By 1977, California was experiencing their worst drought on record.

TimesMachine: March 8, 1977 –

Roberts’ climate forecasts were golden, and unlike Trenberth, Roberts released actual temperature data – measured by actual thermometers.

21 Jul 1974, 13 – The Des Moines Register at

In 1951, Roberts discovered a critical relationship between solar activity and climate.


Roberts’ solar studies were a key part of allied success during WWII because he was able to predict when German and Japanese communications would be disrupted by solar flares.

13 Feb 1946 – The Coronagraph – Trove

Sadly, Roberts memory has been disrespected by allowing junk scientist Kerry Emanuel to speak at the Walter Orr Roberts lecture in Boulder this year. The graph below is his fake CO2 based hurricane forecast.

Climate science has been completely wrecked by incompetent hacks like Gore, Hansen, Trenberth, Schmidt, Mann, and Hayhoe.

15 Oct 1997, Page 5 – The Daily Journal at

But in the past, there were actual climate scientists doing actual science.

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Comments (4)

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    Spurwing Plover


    Trenberth is just another con-man with his load of malarkey thicker then flies on roadkill

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    Alan Falk


    Several decades ago, in the early days of the internet, I stumbled across an interesting site. On it, there were animated graphs that covered weather phenomena over many decades, mapped onto the United States.

    Repeated views of the animations brought me to observe that rainfall seemed to wax and wane across the US in a cyclical manner.

    The periodicity of the cycle appeared to be about five to ten years from ‘wet’ to ‘dry’ and back again.

    I moved to Silicon Valley in July, 1978, just as an extremely dry period was ending. The first ‘clouds in the daytime sky’ appeared around that October. The rains ended the drought in the next winter or two.

    But about five or seven years later, drought returned. Hillsides were going up in flames and homes were being destroyed.

    Another five or seven years later, the rains returned and ground became saturated and houses all along the Pacific Coast were slipping down the hillsides or into the ocean.

    Moving to North Carolina in 2005, I began to observe the same cyclical nature of rainfall. Drought – Wet – Drought – Wet… over and over again since then. But nobody seemed to notice the pattern and virtually every time a wet or dry cycle arrived, just about everyone panicked and assumed that the wet OR dry period would last FOREVER… of course, until it reversed Again.

    I’d just like to call these observations of mine to your attention. Enjoy!

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    Pfffft…The sun affects our climate?!!! Now that’s just crazy talk.

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    I’ve been farming over forty years, don’t bother reading the old farmers almanac but I’m willing to put some faith in a 3-day forecast
    Only one out of those forty years would I call a perfect growing year. 2010. That was here, your experience probably differed from mine.

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