• Privacy Policy
  • About Us
  • Contact Us
Climate Change Dispatch
  • Home
  • Videos
  • Who We Are
  • Facts Vs. Fearmongering
    • Real science vs Junk Science
      • 1100-plus Peer-Reviewed Studies
      • Michael Crichton: Aliens Cause Global Warming
      • Climate change and its causes
      • Climate Science Primer
      • CO2 is not pollution
      • Deceptive Surface Temperature Records
      • Editorial: Great Global Warming Hoax
      • Rules for Climate Radicals: Part 1
      • Rules for Climate Radicals: Part 2
      • Rules for Climate Radicals: Part 3
      • Why CO2 Is A Minor Player In Global Climate
      • Why Politicized Science Is So Dangerous
    • Facts Not Fear
      • A Simple Question For Climate Alarmists
      • Climate Change – The Facts
      • Climate Change Fears Are Empirically Baseless
      • Global Warming 101
      • Global Warming Q&A
      • Understanding The Medieval Warm Period
      • Ocean Cycles and Climate
      • Overview of Plate Climatology Theory
      • Precautionary Principle
      • Should We Celebrate Carbon Dioxide?
      • The Skeptics Handbook
      • Weather Versus Climate
      • Why I’m a GW skeptic
      • Winning the climate debate with facts
      • Why Aliens Cause Global Warming
    • Greenhouse FAQs
      • CO2, Plants, & Industry
      • How much have temps changed?
      • How much have temps changed?
      • How much have temps changed?
      • Is global warming real?
      • Measuring temperature
      • Swimming in CO2?
      • Scientists urge caution?
      • Today’s warming trend
      • Variations in temperature
    • Gore’s Greatest Goofs
      • Deconstructing the Truth
      • Fact-Checking Al Gore’s Latest Predictions
      • How Gore Created The Global Warming Hoax
    • Inside Real Climate
      • Closer look at the 97% Consensus
      • GW’s Amazing Story
      • IPCC gets failing grade
      • Real Climate Exposed!
      • Truth about Real Climate
      • We’ve Been Conned
      • What is there a 97% consensus about?
    • Behind the IPCC
      • 1,000 Scientists Dissent
      • Climategate: Caught Green-Handed!
      • Climategate Inquiries
      • Climategate Inquiries 2
      • NIPCC Report Now Available
      • Understanding the Climategate Inquiries
  • Submissions
  • Contact Us
No Result
View All Result
  • Home
  • Videos
  • Who We Are
  • Facts Vs. Fearmongering
    • Real science vs Junk Science
      • 1100-plus Peer-Reviewed Studies
      • Michael Crichton: Aliens Cause Global Warming
      • Climate change and its causes
      • Climate Science Primer
      • CO2 is not pollution
      • Deceptive Surface Temperature Records
      • Editorial: Great Global Warming Hoax
      • Rules for Climate Radicals: Part 1
      • Rules for Climate Radicals: Part 2
      • Rules for Climate Radicals: Part 3
      • Why CO2 Is A Minor Player In Global Climate
      • Why Politicized Science Is So Dangerous
    • Facts Not Fear
      • A Simple Question For Climate Alarmists
      • Climate Change – The Facts
      • Climate Change Fears Are Empirically Baseless
      • Global Warming 101
      • Global Warming Q&A
      • Understanding The Medieval Warm Period
      • Ocean Cycles and Climate
      • Overview of Plate Climatology Theory
      • Precautionary Principle
      • Should We Celebrate Carbon Dioxide?
      • The Skeptics Handbook
      • Weather Versus Climate
      • Why I’m a GW skeptic
      • Winning the climate debate with facts
      • Why Aliens Cause Global Warming
    • Greenhouse FAQs
      • CO2, Plants, & Industry
      • How much have temps changed?
      • How much have temps changed?
      • How much have temps changed?
      • Is global warming real?
      • Measuring temperature
      • Swimming in CO2?
      • Scientists urge caution?
      • Today’s warming trend
      • Variations in temperature
    • Gore’s Greatest Goofs
      • Deconstructing the Truth
      • Fact-Checking Al Gore’s Latest Predictions
      • How Gore Created The Global Warming Hoax
    • Inside Real Climate
      • Closer look at the 97% Consensus
      • GW’s Amazing Story
      • IPCC gets failing grade
      • Real Climate Exposed!
      • Truth about Real Climate
      • We’ve Been Conned
      • What is there a 97% consensus about?
    • Behind the IPCC
      • 1,000 Scientists Dissent
      • Climategate: Caught Green-Handed!
      • Climategate Inquiries
      • Climategate Inquiries 2
      • NIPCC Report Now Available
      • Understanding the Climategate Inquiries
  • Submissions
  • Contact Us
No Result
View All Result
Climate Change Dispatch
No Result
View All Result

Many Scientists Skeptical Of Next-Gen Climate Models Predicting Extreme Warming

by Michael Bastasch
April 22, 2019, 1:07 PM
in News and Opinion
Reading Time: 3 mins read
A A
3

cop24 stop spinning typhoonsEarly runs of some next-generation climate models to be included in the next United Nations report predict way more warming than their predecessors.

While modelers are trying to understand exactly why this happened, many scientists are skeptical there are enough estimates to justify the new warmed-up models.

“These new climate model runs are basically gifts to skeptics, since they clearly reduce the credibility of the climate models for attributions of recent warming and also for 21st-century projections,” climate scientist Judith Curry told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

So far, at least eight of the 15 models have extremely high estimates of climate sensitivity. Climate sensitivity refers to the long-term warming from a doubling of carbon dioxide concentrations in the Earth’s atmosphere.

Climate sensitivity is a hotly debated topic, but nailing down a central estimate is crucial for U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change assessments that try to forecast long-term climate warming.

A higher climate sensitivity measure will yield more alarming results, but not all scientists are convinced there’s enough evidence for high climate sensitivity estimates.

Curry said models with climate sensitivity above 4 degrees Celsius don’t do a good job of replicating past temperatures. For example, early runs of the U.S. Energy Department’s climate model, called E3SM, doesn’t capture the current warming trend very well.

The latest E3SM runs peg climate sensitivity at 5.3 degrees Celsius. That’s well outside the range of what the IPCC considers to be likely — which is somewhere between 1.5 and 4.5 degrees Celsius.

The U.K. Met Office’s two new models both put climate sensitivity well above 5 degrees Celsius. Part of the advances the Met Office says it’s made in the latest suite of climate models is the more detailed simulation of cloud coverage.

New models give a “more detailed representation of sea-ice,” “a more accurate representation of heat exchange between ocean and atmosphere,” and ocean and atmospheric temperature structure, the Met Office says.

Models IPCC vs reality
IPCC computer models vs reality

“One cannot take such results seriously,” Cliff Mass, an atmospheric scientist at the University of Washington, told TheDCNF. “Sometimes when you add detail and complexity to models their predictions degrade; this is certainly the case with weather forecasting models.”

“It appears that these new parameterizations have introduced a bunch of positive feedbacks, while not including some negative feedbacks,” echoed Curry.

However, Mass noted that models predicting extreme warming were only a subset of what’s called the Coupled Model Intercomparison Project Phase 6 (CMIP6), which will be used in the next IPCC report due out in 2021.

“All the models don’t show such increased sensitivity to greenhouse gas increases,” Mass said.

More than 100 climate models from scientific institutions around the world have been registered for CMIP6, including the Energy Department and National Aeronautics and Space Administration.

Scientists have been working for decades to give a more accurate picture of climate sensitivity but without much success. In fact, the likely range of the atmosphere’s response to a doubling of CO2 has increased in recent years.

The IPCC’s latest assessment, released in 2014, lowered the bottom range of climate sensitivity from 2 degrees to 1.5 degrees Celsius — a not to studies that show climate sensitivity may actually be pretty low.

Curry’s research has suggested that climate sensitivity is quite low, about 1.6 degrees Celsius. She’s skeptical of higher estimates of climate sensitivity that are often seized upon by activists and the media to make dire predictions of climate catastrophe.

Read rest at Daily Caller

  • Truth
  • Twitter
  • Facebook
  • LinkedIn
  • Gettr
  • Threads
  • gab-logo Gab
  • Mastodon
  • Buffer
  • Telegram
  • Email
  • Copy Link
  • Share Using More Networks…

Popular Posts

Bipolar

New Study: Ice Core Data Shows Modern Warming Is Statistically Unremarkable

Mar 05, 2026
Energy

Climate Science’s Biggest Shift In Decades: IPCC’s RCP8.5 Is Officially Dead

Apr 29, 2026
Electric Vehicles (EVs)

The ‘Green’ Scam Of The Century: How ‘Renewables’ Increase Fossil Fuel Demands

Oct 23, 2024

Comments 3

  1. Steve says:
    7 years ago

    “Scientists have been working for decades to give a more accurate picture of climate sensitivity but without much success.”

    Perhaps this is because they have no clue what are all the processes which affect the changes in the climate with or without CO2 levels increasing. Dr Curry has made this point many times in the past.

    Reply
    • David Lewis says:
      7 years ago

      You are right about them not understanding all of the processes. Perhaps a bigger handicap is the desire to have the climate models support the anthropological climate change movement. This causes them to increase the sensitivity to carbon dioxide which at the same time takes them further away from reality.

      Reply
  2. Spurwing Plover says:
    7 years ago

    Some of these Crack-Pots and realy into this Gaia poppycock of James Lovelock and think every storm that devestates part of America is Gaias punishment on Trump Voters these people are nuts totaly nuts

    Reply

Comments are welcome! Those that add no discussion value may be removed.Cancel reply

Stay Connected!

gab-logo

Donate Today

Beating back the alarmist narrative takes time and money. Please donate today to help!

Get notified when new posts are published!

Subscribe to receive a digest of daily stories, or get emailed once they're published. Check your Junk/Spam folder for a verification email.

Recent Posts

  • cartoon attribution courtSame Old Playbook: Climate Litigation Activists Are Writing Their Own Science, Again
    Jul 16, 2026
    A plaintiffs' attorney briefed the NAS committee shaping its new climate attribution report — raising fresh questions about independence. […]
  • german evsBerlin Raids $34 Billion From Climate Fund For Budget Relief
    Jul 16, 2026
    Berlin will shift $34.2 billion from its climate fund to the federal budget, limiting EV and heat pump subsidies to lower earners. […]
  • japan oil tanker portJapan Ditches Climate Pledges For Fossil Fuel Security
    Jul 16, 2026
    Japan abandons its net-zero timeline, reopening coal plants and stockpiling oil as Hormuz risk exposes the cost of climate idealism. […]
  • boston summer sunUrban Heat Islands — Not Climate Change — Are Driving Up City Temperatures
    Jul 15, 2026
    Governing magazine blames climate change for extreme heat, but the real culprit is urban development driving the urban heat island effect. […]
  • tranmission lines reactorUnder Trump’s EO, Four Companies Have Jumpstarted America’s Nuclear Race
    Jul 15, 2026
    Four reactor companies hit criticality within 30 days, meeting Trump's July 4th deadline under DOE's nuclear pilot program. […]
  • A nuclear power plant in Europe operates cooling towers amid an overcast sky, part of the aging Soviet-designed reactor fleet still powering the continent's electricity grid.Europe’s Russian Reactor Problem Is A Growing NATO Problem
    Jul 15, 2026
    NATO's alliance runs on more than defense budgets — its aging Russian-designed reactors reveal a hidden threat to Western energy security. […]
  • neighborhood some homes for saleHow Wall Street’s Climate Alarmist Scorecard Is Quietly Torching Home Values
    Jul 14, 2026
    A private, unregulated climate score is contradicting FEMA flood maps — and quietly wrecking home values across the U.S. […]
  • mliband interviewEd Miliband Wants to Run the Treasury. Britain Should Be Terrified
    Jul 14, 2026
    Ed Miliband wants to be Chancellor. Given his North Sea flip-flopping and eco-zealot record, that should terrify Britain, not reassure it. […]
  • cartoon usgcrp summitTrump Taps Credentialed Scientist to Lead Federal Climate Program, Lefty Media Cringes
    Jul 14, 2026
    Dr. Matthew Wielicki’s appointment signals a course correction toward true scientific rigor and away from narrative-driven climate alarmism. […]
  • supreme court buildingAdvocates Call For Justice Kagan Investigation On Climate Change Bias
    Jul 13, 2026
    Advocates urged the Senate to investigate Justice Kagan’s potential conflict of interest in a major climate change case, and called for her recusal. […]

Books You May Like

Cold Facts About the Great Global Warming Scam

Climate prn book

Sunset on Net Zero

Canary in a Climate World

Have a suggestion? Let us know! We swap out books based on your input. We participate in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program. See here.

  • Privacy Policy
  • DMCA Policy
  • About Us
  • Contact Us

© Portions copyright Climate Change Dispatch

No Result
View All Result
  • Home
  • Videos
  • Who We Are
  • Facts Vs. Fearmongering
    • Real science vs Junk Science
      • 1100-plus Peer-Reviewed Studies
      • Michael Crichton: Aliens Cause Global Warming
      • Climate change and its causes
      • Climate Science Primer
      • CO2 is not pollution
      • Deceptive Surface Temperature Records
      • Editorial: Great Global Warming Hoax
      • Rules for Climate Radicals: Part 1
      • Rules for Climate Radicals: Part 2
      • Rules for Climate Radicals: Part 3
      • Why CO2 Is A Minor Player In Global Climate
      • Why Politicized Science Is So Dangerous
    • Facts Not Fear
      • A Simple Question For Climate Alarmists
      • Climate Change – The Facts
      • Climate Change Fears Are Empirically Baseless
      • Global Warming 101
      • Global Warming Q&A
      • Understanding The Medieval Warm Period
      • Ocean Cycles and Climate
      • Overview of Plate Climatology Theory
      • Precautionary Principle
      • Should We Celebrate Carbon Dioxide?
      • The Skeptics Handbook
      • Weather Versus Climate
      • Why I’m a GW skeptic
      • Winning the climate debate with facts
      • Why Aliens Cause Global Warming
    • Greenhouse FAQs
      • CO2, Plants, & Industry
      • How much have temps changed?
      • How much have temps changed?
      • How much have temps changed?
      • Is global warming real?
      • Measuring temperature
      • Swimming in CO2?
      • Scientists urge caution?
      • Today’s warming trend
      • Variations in temperature
    • Gore’s Greatest Goofs
      • Deconstructing the Truth
      • Fact-Checking Al Gore’s Latest Predictions
      • How Gore Created The Global Warming Hoax
    • Inside Real Climate
      • Closer look at the 97% Consensus
      • GW’s Amazing Story
      • IPCC gets failing grade
      • Real Climate Exposed!
      • Truth about Real Climate
      • We’ve Been Conned
      • What is there a 97% consensus about?
    • Behind the IPCC
      • 1,000 Scientists Dissent
      • Climategate: Caught Green-Handed!
      • Climategate Inquiries
      • Climategate Inquiries 2
      • NIPCC Report Now Available
      • Understanding the Climategate Inquiries
  • Submissions
  • Contact Us

© 2026 Climate Change Dispatch

 
Share via
  • Facebook
  • Twitter
  • Pinterest
  • LinkedIn
  • Digg
  • Tumblr
  • VKontakte
  • Print
  • Email
  • Reddit
  • Buffer
  • Love This
  • Weibo
  • Pocket
  • Xing
  • Odnoklassniki
  • WhatsApp
  • Meneame
  • Blogger
  • Amazon
  • Yahoo Mail
  • Gmail
  • AOL
  • Newsvine
  • HackerNews
  • Evernote
  • MySpace
  • Mail.ru
  • Viadeo
  • Line
  • Flipboard
  • Comments
  • SMS
  • Viber
  • Telegram
  • Subscribe
  • Facebook Messenger
  • Kakao
  • LiveJournal
  • Yammer
  • Edgar
  • Fintel
  • Mix
  • Instapaper
  • Copy Link
  • Truth
  • gab-logo Gab
  • Gettr
  • Baidu
  • Mastodon
  • Threads
  • Bluesky
Share via
  • Tumblr
  • VKontakte
  • Print
  • Email
  • Reddit
  • Buffer
  • Love This
  • Weibo
  • Pocket
  • Xing
  • Odnoklassniki
  • WhatsApp
  • Meneame
  • Blogger
  • Amazon
  • Yahoo Mail
  • Gmail
  • AOL
  • Newsvine
  • HackerNews
  • Evernote
  • MySpace
  • Mail.ru
  • Viadeo
  • Line
  • Flipboard
  • Comments
  • SMS
  • Viber
  • Telegram
  • Subscribe
  • Facebook Messenger
  • Kakao
  • LiveJournal
  • Yammer
  • Edgar
  • Fintel
  • Mix
  • Instapaper
  • Copy Link
  • Truth
  • gab-logo Gab
  • Gettr
  • Baidu
  • Mastodon
  • Threads
  • Bluesky