A provocative comment came on a post of Judith Curry’s podcast about the non-alarming status of climate change. Not a clear and present danger.
Climate propaganda has reached stages far beyond the well known propaganda of Nazi Germany, trying to censure and destroy people’s lives and careers, is something Herr Doctor Paul Joseph Goebbels, Reich Minister of Propaganda of Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945, would greatly envy and value highly.
That drew a spirited response from a person who lived in Germany for most of his life.
Goebbels was above all, together with Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler, one of the top three persons responsible for the elimination of
– over 6 million European Jewish people
– probably 1 million Germans who publicly expressed their rejection of the Nazi regime (communists, socialists, social democrats, Christians, Muslims, etc.)
– half a million Sinti, Roma and other ‘colored’ minorities
– hundreds of thousands of physically and / or mentally handicapped people.Climate propagandists aren’t very intelligent people, but they didn’t kill anybody.
Please stop such insane comparisons.
Yes, I am not aware of climate propagandists who have killed anybody deliberately, although there appears to be a body of Deep Green thought that regards some billions of people as surplus to the requirements or the carrying capacity of the planet.
Leaving the outright loonies aside, just consider the unintended consequences of actions, the things that happen some distance away in time and space, like the dead fish downstream from a point of serious pollution.
There are two sides to this argument, one is the lives lost due to carbon-mitigation policies. The other is the lives that could be saved if some of the resources wasted in futile CO2 reduction programs were applied (sensibly) to the suffering of millions in the developing world.
Yes, I know about Lord Peter Bauer and the harm done by government-to-government aid in the Third World.
Lives lost, the biofuel story
As much as 5% of the worldwide grain harvest is taken out of the human food chain to produce ethanol to add to petrol.
That has a knock-on effect through the food chain with the most significant impact in the poorest parts of the developing world where tens of millions of people are on the edge of starvation.
A small difference in the price of food is a matter of life and death for them and in some years there are estimates that up to 200,000 people may die in a bad year as a result of the biofuel program.
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That figure is contested and it is likely to be on the high side. Still, it was circulated by Mike Hulme who is an international leader in the alarmist movement so he can’t be accused of making it up to embarrass his colleagues.
The UN’s special rapporteur on the right to food condemned the growing of biofuels as ‘a crime against humanity’ because they diverted arable land to the production of crops which are then burned for fuel instead of sold for food…
Rather than contributing to the theoretical food security of hundreds of millions of the world’s poor in 50 years time, it has reduced the actual food security of tens of millions of the world’s poor today.
Lives not being saved from indoor-air pollution
Nearly three billion people in the developing world cook and keep warm by burning wood and animal dung.
This is classified as renewable energy biomass and it makes up by far the majority of all kinds of renewable energy generated around the world.
Biomass burned indoors generates toxic fumes causing lung diseases that kill up to 4 million according to the WHO.
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These lives can be saved if the people have electric power to eliminate indoor pollution and drive the infrastructure required to deliver clean drinking water and public health programs, plus agricultural productivity and economic development.
In most developing nations, electric power could come from local resources of coal and gas but the international lending agencies were pressured by the Obama administration and the European Union to direct funding to renewable energy projects.
The notorious Indian village experiment demonstrated the lunacy of that idea.
In 2014, Greenpeace activists set up a solar-powered microgrid for the Indian village of Dharni. A great celebration was planned for the benefit of Government Ministers who were invited.
Of course, the system could not handle the load when people tried to use appliances beyond the level of electric lights and mobile phone chargers.
On the great opening day, the visiting dignitaries were met by villagers with banners stating “we want real electricity, not fake electricity.”
Looking at the numbers you can make a case that, on the scale of lost lives, if not on the scale of evil, the “war on CO2” would appear to rate higher than the crimes of the Nazis.
Read rest at Catallaxy Files
As well I have been wondering how many children have been put into depression mindsets over years of: The World’s Going to End. Greta Thunbergs et al
The problem is that the two sets comprising ‘climate alarmist’ and ‘humanity-hating whackadoodle’, when depicted in a Venn diagram, is nearly a full intersection.
Unfortunately, none of them have the intestinal fortitude to lead by example and cull themselves to assuage their climate cult deity. There’s far more to be gained by them in playing the ‘climate victim’, which is why they virtue-signal so vigorously.
They are the modern incarnation of Pharisees, making a big public show of their climate-piety, while ‘carbon-polluting’ (no, carbon dioxide is not really pollution except in the climate alarmists’ scrambled and unstable minds) just as much or more than the people they call climate-heathens, and while in their hearts secretly wishing that those climate-heathens could somehow be done away with (likely out of a sense of guilt over their knowledge that they are, in fact, no better than those they denigrate, and because they no longer want to be compared to those climate-heathens and found lacking).
In modern parlance, we call them ‘hypocrites’.
I also call them ‘cowards’, because they don’t have the grapes to personally take their death-cult ideology to its logical conclusion.
Those “outright loonies” you reference are among the richest and most powerful people on the planet:
The birth of the modern organized religion of CAGW:
“In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill…. All these dangers are caused by human intervention… The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.” – “The First Global Revolution” (1991, p. 104) published by the “Club of Rome”, originally the Morgenthau Group, a Malthusian group dedicated to creating a Marxist “New World Order” government and drastically cutting world population. In 2000, they released “Global 2000: Blueprint for Genocide”, their blueprint for committing genocide on 2 billion people. And that was just the start of their agenda. They would have to commit genocide on an additional 4.5 billion to meet their goals.
These are the people you’re siding with, snowflakes. You think you’re going to be one of the few who are spared? You’re what’s known in socialist parlance as “useful idiots”. Should they gain power, they’ll get rid of you first… they always do… they don’t want people who riot at the drop of a hat, they want sheeple who quietly do what they’re told. They’re using you to gain power, and once they gain power, you’re no longer useful to them, you’re a threat to their dominance.
Nothing in the climate change fraud compares to the Holocaust. However, climate change is very much a fascist movement. In fascism decisions are made at the top and implemented without consulting those impacted. With the climate change movement decisions such as mandating increased use of renewables are made without the input of the people who must pay higher bills for energy. This movement attempts to over ride the clear desires of the people. In Washington State a carbon emissions tax was defeated in two elections and yet Governor Inslee tried to get the legislature to force such as tax on the people.
Fascism persecutes those who disagree with them. There have been many who spoke out against climate change who have bee persecuted, ridiculed, and had their incomes reduced. Fascism is still with us, it just has a different face.