The 25,000 delegates who have flown to Madrid, Spain, for the COP25 climate conference look set to leave after two weeks of talking with nothing to show for their efforts aside from bitterness and chaos over the simple question: who – apart from the United States – will be called upon to pay the bills.
This follows angry accusations from Third World delegates at what they see as attempts to block progress on a range of issues because of the actions of some large emitters.
Carlos Fuller from Belize told the BBC that Brazil, Saudi Arabia, India, and China were “part of the problem” because of their refusal to guarantee any payments for their climate “sins.”
The only agreement amongst representatives is that the U.S. alone might be left with a multi-billion dollar tab.
As Breitbart News reported, the United States was warned Wednesday it cannot avoid compensating poorer nations hit by climate change, despite Donald Trump honoring his election promise of leaving the 2015 Paris climate agreement.
Delegates and observers at the COP25 negotiations told AFP that Washington seeks a change to the U.N. climate convention that could release it from punitive “loss and damage” funding for developing nations which is predicted to run into the billions of dollars.
Now other emitters are trying to limit the scale of what can be achieved while they push all demands for reparations back across the table and demand the U.S. alone pays the bills of the many.
“There’s an effort right now to block the words ‘climate urgency’ in text from Brazil and Saudi Arabia, saying we haven’t used these words before in the U.N., so we can’t use them now,” said Jennifer Morgan, executive director of Greenpeace International.
“This gap between what’s happening on the outside and what’s happening in the science, and this ‘U.N. speak’ that won’t react and drive something is very frustrating.”
Negotiators have told the BBC that the obstinacy of some countries was limiting agreement on non-contentious questions.
“I am very disturbed and angry,” said Carlos Fuller, the chief negotiator for the small island developing states group of countries.
“At 2.30 this morning we couldn’t agree to continue working on a transparency framework, that tells the world what each country is doing, we couldn’t agree to keep working on it. That is ridiculous”
If the two weeks of climate wrangling fail to come up with any workable solution, the only guarantee is that the whole process will begin again in 12 months’ time.
That’s when 25,000 people from 200 countries will again fly in from around the world to seek ways to achieve the United Nations’ demand for global “climate solutions.”
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Not a red cent! This garbage promotion/ extortion scheme/ crony socialism circus must be stopped. Trump deserves to be reelected for his decision to ditch the Paris Accord abomination alone.
Remember, Christiana Figueres, former Executive Secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, said that the climate change movement was not about climate. It was to transfer the wealth of the industrial nations to the developing nations.
Climate Reparations is the means to do this. They have not only bought into the false claim that extreme weather events caused by industrial nations are more common, but they want full compensation for every such event. If the industrial nations had caused more extreme weather, the only reasonable demand would be one for the amount of increased damage. Wanting compensation for all weather damage shows that it is all about transferring wealth.
The reality is extreme weather events are not increasing. Now let’s consider something that actually is happening. Increased carbon dioxide levels are greening the earth. This results in increased crop yields. If the developing nations buy into the concept of being compensated for increased weather damage that isn’t happening, then they should be willing to pay the industrial nations for increased crop yields that is happening. It should be pretty straight forward to separate how much of the increase is from higher CO2 levels and how much from better farming practices. The greening of the earth in nature could measure the impact of higher CO2 levels. I don’t know the real numbers, but let’s say a developing nation’s crop yield had increased by 15%. Of that 7% could be shown to come from higher CO2 levels. If that nation buys into the concept of climate reparations, by the SAME CONCEPT they should be willing to pay the industrial nations for the 7% extra crop yield.
All these other countries saying that the US will pay billions for “climate sins” sounds like two wolves and a sheep voting on what is for dinner. But alas, these “wolves” are toothless and the sheep is armed to the teeth with guns.
See:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/337915619_Cogent_and_irrefutable_reasons_why_carbon_dioxide_cannot_warm_Earth
& https://www.researchgate.net/publication/337915638_Understanding_Josef_Loschmidt's_Gravito-_Thermal_Effect_and_thus_Why_the_Radiative_Forcing_Greenhouse_Hypothesis_is_False
Climate reparations to be paid by whom ?
And to be received by whom ?
Anyone who suggests the USA must pay
should be marginalized at least
if not totally censured.
How dare any world entity demand the
USA must pay for their current fad idiocies.
The USA actually owes the rest of the world
NOTHING !!!!!!!!!
Just because the USA has been in the past
EXTREMELY GENEROUS
in helping other countries through various
hardships including the devastation of total war,
It is NOT an eternal duty of the USA to rescue
everyone from all possible calamities.
The rest of the world should learn to be grateful,
and not act like parasitic welfare recipients .
I have yet to see any of these countries demonstrate any real climate change-related damage, as there are none. They just want a blank check and, indeed, as mentioned above, they want free cash and lots of it for simply begging for it while pretending its their right.
NSSM 200
Greg Bateson
Margret Mead
Pilgrims Society
Thomas Malthus
Julian Huxley
Stanford LSD
Circuit Earth
George Bush 1991 IPCC CIA
https://niflheimmedia.wordpress.com/2016/04/01/climate-change-science/
I need to emphasize that the only interest that the third world nations have in the COP process is to get something for nothing. In a typical year the news in these countries is dominated by the expectations of this money in the weeks leading up to a COP meeting.
The article talked about forcing the US to provide billions to the developing nations. Just how do they expect to “force” us? An economic boycott wouldn’t work because we are everyone’s best customer. Don’t expect Brazil, Saudi Arabia, India, and China to try to pressure the US since they might be called on to pay at a later date.
I have been reading articles about this year’s COP from those who believe in the climate change dogma including those from developing nations. One article had headlines that the US was blocking action on climate finance even though we are leaving the Paris Treaty. Yet, when the article got down to the details, every item the US was said to be blocking was also being blocked by the European Union. This has also happened in past years.
COP 25 is taking a wait and see attitude based on the 2020 US elections. Even if the Democrats win, the developing nations are going to be disappointed. I don’t see Pelosi agreeing to hand over tens of billions of dollars to developing nations. The leaders of these countries will just have to get by with smaller mansions and smaller militaries.
Excellent summary David. I recall the disagreements at the failed conference in The Hague in 2000 were about similar issues. Nancy Pelosi flew three planeloads of leftist bureaucrats over to The Netherlands on a junket to offer windmills made by GE and solar panels made by Dow but the only thing the green suited gun toting “leaders” from Africa wanted was cold hard cash deposited into private accounts in Switzerland. It seems their priority was solid gold bathroon fixtures; not cutting down every remaining living tree to make charcoal. That, in a nutshell, is what the US policy regarding climate “catastrophe” is all about; funneling vast sums of money directly from the US Treasury into the pockets of well connected uber-wealthy Democrat Party cronys via forgivable loans, outright public grants, numerous tradeable tax credits, and highly restrictive legislation to make it all unavoidable. $550BN spent during the eight years of the Obama Administration alone funded with T-Bill debt. Every village garbage dump in the US now has solar panels on their garbage heaps courtesy of the as-of-yet unborn US taxpayers in generations to come. I’m sure they’ll be happy to know that their grandparents spent their wages on solar panels forty years earlier and stuck them with the tab. But how else can you afford a nice home in San Francisco or Cambridge these days other than raiding the Treasury with a little help from your Congressperson?
Sorry, Africa, but Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau decided to spend carbon dioxide taxes buying votes. He needs the gig.
Ah yes, Trudeau, forever dogmatically barking up the wrong tree. Aren’t we Canadians lucky to have him as PM. ☹
No, we are definitely not.