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Stossel: How Socialism Ruins The Environment

by John Stossel
June 07, 2023, 9:13 AM
in News and Opinion
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aoc green deal push“Greed of the fossil fuel industry” is “destroying our planet,” says Sen. Bernie Sanders. Young people agree. Their solution? Socialism.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says socialism creates “an environment that provides for all people, not just the privileged few.”

“Nonsense,” says Tom Palmer of the Atlas Network in my new video. [emphasis, links added]

Palmer, unlike Ocasio-Cortez and most of us, spent lots of time in socialist countries. He once smuggled books into the Soviet Union.

What he’s seen convinces him that environmental movement socialists are wrong about what’s “green.”

“We tried socialism,” says Palmer. “We ran the experiment. It was a catastrophe. Worst environmental record on the planet.”

In China, when socialist leaders noticed that sparrows ate valuable grain, they encouraged people to kill sparrows.

“Billions of birds were killed,” says Palmer.

Government officials shot birds. People without guns banged pans and blew horns, scaring sparrows into staying aloft for longer than they could tolerate.

“These poor exhausted birds fell from the skies,” says Palmer. “It was insanity.”

I pointed out that, watching a video of people killing sparrows, it looked like they were happy to do it.

“If you failed to show enthusiasm for the socialist goals of the party,” Palmer responds, “you were going to be in trouble.”

The Party’s campaign succeeded. They killed nearly every sparrow.

But “all it takes is two minutes of thinking to figure, ‘Wait. Who’s going to eat all the bugs?‘” says Palmer.

Without sparrows, insects multiplied. Bugs destroyed more crops than the sparrows had.

“People starved as a consequence,” says Palmer. “People confuse socialism with … a ‘nice government’ or a ‘government that’s sweet‘ or ‘made up of my friends.’”

Socialism means central planning. That ends badly.

“What AOC wants to do is basically give the Pentagon, or similar agencies, control over the entire society. She thinks that’s going to turn out well,” says Palmer. “It’s a joke.”

China’s central planners keep making mistakes.

Many Chinese lakes and rivers are bright green. Fertilizer runoff created algae blooms that kill all fish. A Lancet study says Chinese air pollution kills a million people per year.

Wherever socialism is tried, it creates nasty pollution.

In the Soviet Union, Joseph Stalin wanted cotton for his army. His central planners decided it should be grown near the Aral Sea. They drained so much water that the sea, once the fourth biggest inland lake in the world, shrank to less than half its size.

“Soviet planners caused catastrophic environmental costs to the whole population,” says Palmer.

I push back. “That was then. Now the rules would be different. Now the rule would be: ‘green.'”

“All the time we hear socialists say, ‘Next time, we’ll get it right.‘ How many next times do you get?” asks Palmer.

Yet American media still sometimes say socialists protect the environment.

A New York Times op-ed claims “Lenin’s eco-warriors” created “the world’s largest system of most protected nature reserves.”

“These are not nature preserves,” Palmer responds. “They use it as a dumping ground for heavy metals, for radioactive waste — in what sense is it a nature preserve?”

Capitalists destroy nature, too. Free societies do need government rules to protect the environment.

But free markets with property rights often protect nature better than bureaucrats can.

Private farmers, explains Palmer, are “concerned about the ability of the farm to grow food next year, year after year, (even) after that farmer is gone. Why? Because the farm has a capital value. That’s the ‘capital’ in capitalism. They want to maximize that.”

Capitalism also protects the environment because it creates wealth. When people aren’t worried about starving or freezing, they get interested in protecting nature. That’s why capitalist countries have cleaner air.

Also, capitalists can afford to pay for wild animal preserves.

“When no one has property rights and people are poor, tigers and elephants are considered a burden … They kill them,” says Palmer. “When you’re wealthier … you care about the environment.”

Socialists say they care, but the real world shows: to protect the environment, capitalism works better.

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Comments 5

  1. David Lewis says:
    2 years ago

    We need to remember that climate change is a convenient way to promote socialism. Originally what became the Green New Deal didn’t contain any climate change components. It was the platform of a socialist party, I don’t remember which one. Then people such as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez added climate change to the socialist platform and the result was the Green New Deal.

  2. Spurwing Plover says:
    2 years ago

    The former Soviet Union was a Enviromental Nightmare toxic waste and Chernobyle and what else Pollution far worst then any place else by Comparison America is far cleaner

  3. Vic Alborn says:
    2 years ago

    For those of us who remember history: The comparison between West and East Germany when the “wall” came down was stark ad that evidence kills any garbage spewed by the likes of AOC.

    • Sonnyhill says:
      2 years ago

      I remember it well. When the reunification celebrations subsided, the West Germans noticed that the East Germans were “not like us. They wait for the government to decide and provide” No initiative, no ambition.

  4. Sonnyhill says:
    2 years ago

    Does anyone remember the story about the heart and the brain arguing who was more valuable, who should be the boss? The sphincter jumped into the argument. “What if I go on strike?” When the brain and the heart laughed at him, the sphincter quit working. Eventually constipation forced the brain and heart to concede, the sphincter was boss.
    Socialists are A-holes.

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