Some cold facts on global warming

washington snowYesterday it was still February, but the high temperature hit 64 degrees here in Washington, with snow drifts still melting from last month’s massive East Coast blizzard. So what are we to make of the weather and the climate change controversy? Is it getting warmer or colder?

It’s not even a question worth asking, as far as the analysts at NASA are concerned. Before the blizzard hit, they had already announced that 2015 was the hottest year on record. Not that this is anything new for most Americans. We hear dire global warming proclamations on a near-daily basis, and it’s always just been the hottest day, week, month or year — no matter what the weather’s like outside.

Yet, as climate expert David Kreutzer recently pointed out, NASA is fairly selective about which information you’re supposed to believe. The agency’s own satellite data shows that while last year was indeed warm, it wasn’t as warm as 2010 or 1998.

But wait, some may say. You can chalk up this discrepancy to the difference between what the satellite data says and what the surface temperatures are (which NASA gathers from thousands of sites worldwide, with a few “adjustments” thrown in). But it doesn’t matter. Neither data set supports the wild predictions being bandied about by global warming alarmists.

Search all the data for evidence of the accelerated warming projected by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and you come up empty-handed. Sometimes temperatures go up, but not always. There’s no constant warming. Indeed, the data show a significant moderation of the warming trend. At times it appears to have leveled off or even cooled a bit.

Should we be surprised? Not really. When you throw in variables such as measurement errors, as well as El Nino and La Nina, it makes sense that the average temperature for some years will be higher even if the overall trend is flat.

“Will the trend stay flat? Probably not,” Mr. Kreutzer writes. “The Earth has been recovering from the Little Ice Age for a couple of centuries and recovering from a real ice age for thousands of years. So there is a reasonable chance that we will revert to an overall warming trend, but there is no guarantee. Who knows? We might even be headed into another ice age (as was predicted in the 1970s).”

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    George Roberts

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    Here is what Dr. Spencer has to say.

    “The Version 6.0 global average lower tropospheric temperature (LT) anomaly for February, 2016 is +0.83 deg. C, up almost 0.3 deg C from the January value of +0.54 deg. C (click for full size version), which is a new record for the warmest monthly anomaly since satellite monitoring began in late 1978.”

    http://www.drroyspencer.com/2016/03/uah-v6-global-temperature-update-for-feb-2016-0-83-deg-c-new-record/

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    Amber

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    What is shocking is the Washington Times would actually publish an article that questions the propaganda churned out by scary global warming industry . Good on them for doing their job .

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    JayPee

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    While I’m not arguing with this essay nor the comments, I’d like to remind everyone that

    WE ARE STILL IN THE LAST ICE AGE.

    Roughly 30,000 years ago a warming started to be followed by a further warming roughly 12.000 years ago. Since then there have been various fluctuations up and down.

    But there are still “permanent” massive glaciers in both hemispheres and that’s the definition of an ice age.

    Just because it was worse thirty millennia ago doesn’t mean that the earth left the current ice age.

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    GR82DRV

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    [quote name=”JayPee”]

    WE ARE STILL IN THE LAST ICE AGE.

    But there are still “permanent” massive glaciers in both hemispheres and that’s the definition of an ice age.

    Just because it was worse thirty millennia ago doesn’t mean that the earth left the current ice age.[/quote]

    What?

    Impossible!

    You mean that the glacial moraine upon which I live wasn’t created by evil humans using fossil fuels? [i](place shocked-looking emoticon here)[/i]

    How could that be?

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    JayPee

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    @ 196zip

    I’ll be awaiting your refreshing comment when a cold month is reported.
    We all know one month makes a long term trend especially when the current ice age is more than 100.000 years long.

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    Amber

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    196to 0
    Were those the manipulated NOAA numbers
    and when was the “record you refer to started ? 1979 or later ?
    You can never have enough of those asphalt located weather stations stuck beside rejected heat from air conditioners .
    In any event lets hope it is warming as it continues out of the last ice age . Cooling would be a real problem .

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    JayPee

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    Amber

    It doesn’t matter that the numbers were manipulated and transformed to meet their subjective goals.

    All that really matters is that there is no such thing as their much declared and relied upon unproven Greenhouse Effect.

    And additionally that we are sill in the
    LAST ICE AGE.

    They can lie all they want
    but they will never be able to refute that we are still in the

    LAST ICE AKE

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    196to0

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    [quote name=”JayPee”]@ 196zip

    I’ll be awaiting your refreshing comment when a cold month is reported.
    We all know one month makes a long term trend especially when the current ice age is more than 100.000 years long.[/quote]

    Well, no one under the age of 30 has ever experienced a month in their life that was below the 20th century average. The odds of that happening NATURALLY would be larger than winning Powerball every week this month.

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    JayPee

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    @196

    I do not consider you to to be intelligent.
    Comment all you want., but you are obviously

    A DOPE

    even if you don’t live in Rome.

    The FACT that you can in no way dispute what has been previously stated shows what you are.

    If you are not the lying Andrezjewski
    it makes no difference
    because you are just as obnoxiously arrogant as the

    lying Andrzejewski and expect to be treated accordingly.

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    Me

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    I see Drewski is back in time when some nice weather happens to claim AGW all over yet again! 😀

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    amirlach

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    Alarmists proclaimed that any lack of warming would have to last at least a decade, then it was 15 years.

    Seems “weather” only becomes a “climate” tend after 30 years. So one warm month?

    It’s called weather. :zzz

    At least Spencer is honest enough he never “adjusted” it away like guy’s like Hansen.

    https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/hansen-the-climate-chiropractor/

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    amirlach

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    Mountains of UTTERLY failed and invalidated models are hardly “evidence” of anything beyond the waste of tax dollars.

    One needs look no further for the reason why after spending trillions, why hundreds of academics, scientists and researchers in dozens of scientific fields squandering grant money from the various countries they live in have not produced a single skill-full or scientifically valid prediction.

    The IPCC admitted that the level of scientific understanding (LSU) of 7 of 11 climate factors
    was “very low” and that for another the LSU was “low”.

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    196toZero

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    Arctic at historic low for this date and a gobsmacking 16C above average, global ice reaching historic low, past 5 months more than 1C above 20th century average and CCD want to ban the only person here who acknowledges this truth but will give free reign to the “no greenhouse gas” nutters.

    No wonder the rest of the world mocks you.

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    Amber

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    196to zero
    So what if the Arctic is ice is low . Climate changes . Antarctica ice is growing . Again so what ? Some humans with access to very limited accurate records and even less knowledge of natural occurring climate variables are not going to shape the earth’s temperature within a cap of 2 degrees F .
    LET’s hope this long established glacier exit continues . The alternative would not be favorable to plants and animals .

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    196toZero

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    No, the East Antarctic ice sheet has grown slightly and just recently, not West Antarctica. And Antarctica is a technically a desert because of so little humitidy. A warming atmosphere holds more moisture thus more snow.

    Antarctic sea ice now well below normal and the southern ocean is above its normal temps. Continued warming of the oceans creates more humidity and atmospheric heat — both great for mosquito populations (Zika anyone?).

    As well, the oceans are becoming less alkaline and this glacier exit in the south pole you dream of would add even more water into the rising oceans.

    Perhaps if these changes all happened over millions of years, there wouldn’t be such a concern, but in the blink of geologic time? Not so cheery.

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    196toZero

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    Hey Amirlach,
    Why does Steve Goddard stop his GLOBAL graphs in the 1990’s?

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    JayPee

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    Drewski can’t make the glaciers melt
    Doo-dah, doo-dah

    Drewski can’t make the glaciers melt
    Oh doo-dah day

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    196toZero

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    JayPeeee,
    Uhh, you do know that 90% of them ARE melting anyway — right?

    Actually, I am hoping for them to start growing again, but there is this man-made global warming thing going on that is kind of hard to stop.

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    Me

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    Yep drewski, ya got that right, and we want that man-made global warming thing that’s going on to stop! But it’s kinds hard now that it’s a trillion dollar industry, so yeah it’ll be hard to stop. Once you and your kind set up the gravy train, you don’t want it to stop. 😆

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    Me

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    But hey drewski, since you Cli-Sci peeps that claimed science is setteled, I hear in Australia they moved on and don’t need the Cli-Sci peeps to be a money pit anymore! Ya know since it is setteled and all! 😆

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    196toZero

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    You heard wrong about Australia — Turnbull, the new PM, is a true believer.

    AND Summer was very warm for much of Australia, with very much above average mean temperatures across much of coastal northern Australia, throughout inland western Queensland and New South Wales, almost all of Victoria, all of Tasmania and much of southern and eastern South Australia. No State or territory recorded negative temperature anomalies for any of maximum, minimum or mean temperatures, with a National mean temperature anomaly of +0.82 °C (sixth-warmest on record).

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    Me

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    😆 Keep the faith and believeing drewski, that’s all you got! LMAO!

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    196toZero

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    Actually, I got the science and
    you got the conspiracy nonsense.

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    JayPee

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    Drewski has his pseudo-science
    pseudo-science, pseudo-science

    Drewski’ll never fiure it out
    figure it out, figure it oput

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    JayPee

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    Sorry about the spelling

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    196toZero

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    That’s okay Jaypee,
    Spelling is the least of your mistakes.

    Oops, there goes another Arctic record,
    Oops, there goes another ocean record
    Oops, there goes another temperature record
    NOW!

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    JayPee

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    Andrzjewski

    Intelligence is the least of your attributes.
    Lie all you want.

    Every Arctic ( Antarctic ) summer there is some melting. HOW ASTONISHING.

    And

    Every Arctic ( Antarctic ) winter there is glacier expansion, which natural phenomenon you NEVER mention.

    Annual gradual glacier expansion over the fibrillative process is of course NEVER mentioned by you either.

    And I’ll tell everybody why :

    it’s because you are A LIAR.

    Aren’t you proud ?

    You’ve just been proven a liar for about the eighteenth time.

    I expect you’ll throw a party.

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    196toZero

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    Newsflash JayPee,
    The lowest 6 Arctic summer ice records have happened in the past 6 years, the lowest winter maximum was last year and right now – today – the Arctic is at its lowest point for this date.

    And I am the liar for bringing accuracy (supported by evidence “18 times”, of course) into the conversation?!?

    Tell me again about the moon’s albedo and why that is the reason for it being so much colder than the Earth.

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    196toZero

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    Sorry last 8 years happened in the past 8.

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    196toZero

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    and lowest too (need glasses).

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    JayPee

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    Andrezewski

    I know of no one who would expect you to understand.

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    196toZero

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    Understand what JayPee?
    That the people who promote your no-evidence no greenhouse gas theory are constantly kicked off WUWT and Roy Spencer’s blog because they embarrass even those guys?

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    196toZero

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    Understand what JayPee?
    That the people who promote your no-evidence no greenhouse gas theory are constantly kicked off WUWT and Roy Spencer’s blog because they embarrass even those guys?

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    JayPee

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    Andrzejewski

    Like I said
    Nobody expects you to understand.

    All the previous posts must be restated to prove you a liar and a jerk ?

    I don’t think so,
    All anyone has to do is look them up.

    You should to.
    If you could understand.

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    amirlach

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    Your still batting Zero drewLIEski.

    [quote]Newsflash JayPee,
    The lowest 6 Arctic summer ice records have happened in the past 6 years, the lowest winter maximum was last year and right now – today – the Arctic is at its lowest point for this date.

    And I am the liar for bringing accuracy (supported by evidence “18 times”, of course) into the conversation?!?
    [/quote]

    The Nimbus 5 microwave satellite data, which goes back to 1972 and was included in the 1990 IPCC report. The Nimbus 5 data completely wrecks the Liar Drewski’s story, because it shows that ice in 1974 was no more extensive than it is today, and that NSIDC cherry-picked 1979 as their start date.

    According to the IPCC the lowest arctic ice extent recorded was in 1974.
    [img]https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screenhunter_8822-apr-30-06-28.gif[/img]

    https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2015/05/14/more-on-the-arctic-ice-satellite-scam/

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    amirlach

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    Another Naught on his score card…

    Australia to fire half the cLIEmate researchers?

    Is it because the sCience is settled? Or because Turnbull, the new PM, is a true believer? 😀

    The best laugh in the whole story?
    [quote] The Climate Council said governments and businesses relied on the CSIRO’s climate modelling and measuring work to make billion-dollar decisions and if the cuts went ahead, would be relying on “guesswork”. [/quote] “Guesswork”? As opposed to the failed models and fiddled data they use now?

    It was these same useless idiots whose spectacularly wrong advice once helped panic Aussie politicians into wasting billions of dollars on useless desalination plants? 😀

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/02/22/tim-flannery-firing-climate-scientists-breaches-the-paris-agreement/

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    196toZero

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    Have you ever wondered why amirlach got the nickname “One Trick Pony”? Because it is deja vu all over again every time he posts.

    Take this Steve Goddard article he cites replete with half a graph “a” (the southern hemisphere is missing “b”). Why? Because what it shows is the polar opposite (pun intended) of the Arctic graph. amirlach knows that the period up November 1978 had gross errors in the charts.

    If you want to believe that the Arctic was way down in 1972, then you must also concede that the Antarctic was WAY above as well. And if the Antarctic did lose a ton of ice (another pun), then what about all those CCD and Steve Goddard articles saying the Antarctic has been growing recently?

    This is known as a sCeptic pickle.

    For those of you interested in CREDIBLE information on Northern Hemisphere ice, here is a link that to the record from 1953 to 2012.
    https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/sotc/sea_ice.html

    Anyway, I went to amirlach’s citation and found this great link in the comments within. And within THAT link is an explanation as to why 1979 is the preferred starting point for satellite imagery (for both hemispheres): http://greatwhitecon.info/2015/04/gross-deception-measuring-arctic-sea-ice-trends/

    Strangely, Steve Goddard didn’t respond

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    Me

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    Yeah we know by you and when you and your kind go and converse on your warmist like minded site, but here you are a known liar! You even tried to use gators name for your intrest, and yes, Me and Gator doesn’t always agree but hey that is freedom. But when you use his name to smear him that is a nother different level of bullshit. And you know it! Anything for the cause, right?

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    Me

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    And the thing is I caught you and you admitted it here, but hey it’s for the cause. Inever had anyone warning Me of the Same,Must be because I am not religious and that hurts them! 😀

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    Me

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    So Cool Whip! and yeah that is a name you practically gave yourself thar! you can do what you do, but apparently if anyone ever goes to your warnist sites? tell us what will happen? You know? So you liketohave your say here so tell us! 😆

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    Me

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    And then you and your warmist kind are wondering why there are sites like this that lets people have their say, and post articles that opposes the AGW line you and your kind are promoting. And then you come here and want your say while deleting anyone that dares to question the AGW meme at any of your warmist sites. And then you lie and claim to be someone else here and call others names, but it all started in your warmist own house, and then you ptoject it out from there! Ya know some here don’t know Me, they are new, Most times they don’t know where I am comming from, because I am not the cookey cutter conservative, and I have heard the same from your kind that because I’m not religious I am not the cookey cutter peice of shit liberal that you people are. So now you know! I don’t believe bullshit, and no matter how sciency you want to make it, Bullshit is still bullshit! Bottom line!

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    Me

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    So drewski, ya can take that consensus of the lew and cook study consensus of 97% and the196 to ZERO meme in line with with paris crap and stuff it! You know it’s not going to happen, and that’s what you people are banking on for the $$$$$$! That’s the bottom line!

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    196toZero

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    I used Gator’s name to show the inadequacy of the posting procedures on this site. I also dobbed myself in if you remember.

    Strange that the only person on CCD who provides credible information is the one that is always branded the liar.

    Take One Trick, for example — he knew that he was posting flawed information from the biggest misinformation purveyor of the entire internet, Steve Goddard, but did that stop him from trying to deceive you about satellites?

    Or JayPee, has he ever linked his rants on no greenhouse gas effect to anything that could be remotely called evidence? Or how about the ethics of this entire site, do you ever read an article from a bona fide expert in the field they are speaking on?

    Take this article above for example, Edwin Feulner works for a conservative think tank and his education is in business and finance for God’s sake. What “Cold Facts On Global Warming” could he possibly have that could be considered credible particularly as he doesn’t even provide one link to the nonsense he wants you to believe?

    You guys live an ever-shrinking bubble.

    Well, as always, it has been fun. But don’t worry, when the next record falls, I will be here with the news.

    Drewski is now taking off his glasses — up, up and away.

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    Me

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    Bullshit! and you know it!, you were a peice of work back then wanting to prove your point! And you can’t say any different, I was there and saw it!

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    Me

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    All these new people here don’t even know you! Andf that is houy you play your games!

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    Me

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    And that is how you play your games!

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    Me

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    See how serious he gets when he wants to be! When money is involved they don’t play games, they pretent to though!

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    Me

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    So has the Seiarra Club been fruitfull for you? 😆

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    Me

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    [quote name=”Me”]So has the Seiarra Club been fruitfull for you? :lol:[/quote]
    Siarra Club? 😆 😀 😆

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    Me

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    So you still haven’t figured out how I know it’s you yet?! 😆

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    Me

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    And I am the one that caught you claiming to be Gator here! You still havent figured that out yet? 😀

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    Me

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    And yet you still clain the bullshit you do? 😀

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    Me

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    Ok, I’ll be like that. If ya want it! I don’t care about it, Lets see if you do! I got nothing to lose! and lets GO!

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    Me

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    😀 😆 😆 😀 I thought so!

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    Gator

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    [quote]
    Strange that the only person on CCD who provides credible information is the one that is always branded the liar. [/quote]

    [i]# Drewski 2015-02-03 08:22
    Gator has been given many and over many periods. He is just too dense too understand them. I have never stated that natural variability does not exist, however, it is being overwhelmed by man-made forcings. ALL scientific organizations (as in every single one) that carries out original research understands and accepts this.

    # Gator 2015-02-03 09:31
    Just for once, please provide EVEN ONE peer reviewed paper refuting NV as the cause of recent, or any, global climate changes.
    Go on smart guy, do it! 😀
    Remember, every scientist agrees with you and the science is settled. Right? So obviously it’s out there. Right? 😀

    # Drewski 2015-02-03 11:06
    Dementia it is. Poor fellow. They say doing simple physical tasks can sometimes delay the onset.
    What about calling your old pal, Morner, for a bit of dousing?

    # Gator 2015-02-03 11:13
    So you failed yet again. Do you ever tire of me pulling out that football Charlie Brown? 😀
    Paper please!

    # Drewski 2015-02-03 12:51
    Perhaps we can try hypnosis through the internet again?
    Ready, set, you are getting sleepy, sleepy. . .
    You are now back at your computer again in that dark and danky room . . . Drewski has made yet another witty riposte . . . . you are scrambling for a coherent thought. . . . oh no, here comes another 4 studies about the effect of CO2. . . you pretend to not see them. . . you ask Drewski for the same thing again like a brain dead zombie. . .
    Remember now?

    # Gator 2015-02-03 12:57
    Where is your ‘buddy’? 😀
    Better yet, where is that paper?

    # Drewski 2015-02-03 13:08
    Gator,
    If you can’t figure out show laces, then let someone who does tie them for you.
    And if you can’t fathom a scientific study, then let a scientist explain it to you.
    Remember, its not your fault you have a learning disability.

    # Gator 2015-02-03 13:12
    Unlike you Confusedski, I don’t need to have them explained to me. In case you are incapable of recalling recent years, I had to explain to you that your ‘proof’ was nothing more than models.
    I’m sure your imaginary friend is most impressed with your childish insults.
    Paper please! 😀

    # Drewski 2015-02-03 13:25
    Lying again Gator. What models?
    Being dense and a liar may make you a true blue sCeptic but, in the end, you are just another sCeptic destined to be an object of ridicule from future generations .

    # Gator 2015-02-03 13:27
    What paper? liar.
    You are a joke.

    # Drewski 2015-02-03 19:30
    As usual One Trick, you misunderstand. Gator lied when he said those dozen or so scientific papers I have given him over the years were models — they weren’t.

    # Gator 2015-02-03 19:42
    Go ahead and repost the papers [u][i][b]liar[/b][/i][/u]. [/i]

    (Sigh) Liars lie. It’s what they do.

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    196toZero

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    Sigh indeed.
    Gator manages to repost this broken thread of comments over and over again, but amazingly can’t find a single one of scientific papers that I have repeatedly posted to him.

    And what is this lie he continually mentions? (a) That I have never posted a single paper (out of thousands easily found in a 10-second Google search) or (b) that Gator has deemed my postings not satisfactory. That is crux of this matter.

    And this is the reality: After multiple postings over the months of multiple studies to Gator (and the blogosphere), the Slimey Swampthing would arbitrarily pronounce that they didn’t qualify and to send him some more, – rinse, repeat. After I told him that I would not play this pointless game again, he continually pesters me (plus others) to keep playing. Obviously, taking away his ball has caused him to act out and he uses insults to distract us from the REAL issue here.

    Namely, that Gator is completely UNQUALIFIED to evaluate what is climate evidence and what is not. What credentials does Gator possess that EVERY Earth, space and atmospheric science organization on this planet does not? Gator’s self-inflated importance prompts him to denounce their collective science as fraud and yet, UNBELIEVABLY, he supports the lunatic rants of Steve Goddard, JayPee and even of Nils Morner’s dousing.

    All the while, records keep getting broken. February 2016 just smashed the temperature record, Arctic ice right now – today – is the lowest on record for this date plus the Ididerod dogsled race needs to import snow (this is Alaska in winter we are talking about).

    Oh well, such is the sCeptic reality.

    I notice that CCD is slowly fading away into irrelevance with fewer and fewer comments made. That can only be described as a good thing. Maybe I have helped in some small way in this and Gore will reward me with a big fat pay check from all his climate booty. 🙂

    I know I said I was going before, but the long-lost Gator has commented, so how could I not respond?

    But don’t worry, I am really going this time. However, I will be back when yet another record falls (expect sooner than later).

    Glasses off, placed securely in case, pull the drapes back — up, up and away!

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    Amber

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    Global warming is good and cooling bad .
    The “records ” being from what 1970’s ? That is so scary isn’t it ? I’ll vote with
    the vast majority of plants and animals who welcome warming and higher CO2 levels .

    Let’s a the scientific community produce a credible paper on how humans are going to control the earth’s temperature by an arbitrary 2 degrees . That’s right they won’t because it is complete made up BS .

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    Gator

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    [quote]Gator manages to repost this broken thread of comments over and over again, but amazingly can’t find a single one of scientific papers that I have repeatedly posted to him.[/quote]

    Actually the only thing broken in that thread is Drewski’s integrity (if he ever had any).

    Care to repost the papers [u][i][b]liar[/b][/i][/u]? Or is this yet another thread with which I can repeatedly beat you about the head and face? 😆

    What a schmuck!

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    JayPee

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    All’s we have to do is ignore and thereby wastebasket the ignorant lying pig to the insignificance that he is.

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    Me

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    Yeah, I agree, and it’s been tried, but this person just comes back to do it over and over and over every chance he gets, because he knows there are new people visiting here that he wants to take on and spread his meme. That’s their game, so sometimes you have engage them.

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    JayPee

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    Let him keep coming back. We’ll easily recognize him because he’s easily identifiable. Let him squirt his insignificance and we’ll laugh at him preferably without comment.

    Fore that way we show and prove his insignificance and his imposture.

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    Me

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    Well not everyone of them is drewski, but you will know, and there are others just like him, but Yeah, drewski is drewski and it’s may take some time but he will show his colors. 😀

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    Me

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    And yeah, I know all lot of you don’t like Me either, but it is what it is!

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    amirlach

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    [quote]Take this Steve Goddard article he cites replete with half a graph “a” (the southern hemisphere is missing “b”). Why? Because what it shows is the polar opposite (pun intended) of the Arctic graph. amirlach knows that the period up November 1978 had gross errors in the charts. [/quote]
    [img]https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/image87.png[/img]
    What gross errors? Provide some evidence please. The imagery was quite detailed.
    [img]https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/nimbusjan1976anatrcticvsjan20151.gif[/img]
    https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2015/05/14/more-on-the-arctic-ice-satellite-scam/

    Everyone knows that the poles are often “polar opposites” when it comes to trends. What’s your point?

    If as your sources claim, those graphs had “gross” errors it’s quite likely that the southern graph you point to as evidence is just as bad. So please show where the “gross” errors lie.

    And if the Satellite records from 1974 are full of errors, why would the ones after be so much better? Oh right…
    [quote]And within THAT link is an explanation as to why 1979 is the preferred starting point for satellite imagery (for both hemispheres): [/quote] “Consistent time series” are the politically operative words. 😀

    “Consistent” with the correct narrative? This is so often the case with alarmists. When the data does not support the failed hypothesis they simply omit it or “adjust” it so it does.

    What is most surprising is that there was any ice in the artic at all last summer. Considering this laughable predictive failure from 2007. [quote]Last year we had the forecast from NSIDC’s Dr. Mark Serreze of an “ice free north pole”. As we know, that didn’t even come close to being true. Summer 2008 had more arctic ice than summer 2007, and summer 2007 was not “ice free” by any measure.[/quote]
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/26/bad-news-from-nsidc/

    And we all know what the Scientific Method says about failed “predictions”.

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    amirlach

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    Oh right! Sorry. When you mention that cLIEmate UNscientists and their “theory’s” should actually have to be validated by observations. He calls it a “Trick”.

    This is a perfect example of how drewski uses half truths and deflection in his arguments.
    [quote]And what is this lie he continually mentions? (a) That I have never posted a single paper (out of thousands easily found in a 10-second Google search) or (b) that Gator has deemed my postings not satisfactory. That is crux of this matter.[/quote] All the while he knows perfectly well Gator is not asking about just any Peer Reviewed Papers. Just for the ONE that refutes natural variation as cause for observed “climate change”.

    The serial liar 196 to drewski knows full well that no such paper has ever been published.

    How could they when they freely admit this? Before you can refute Natural Variability you would have to know and quantify ALL factors. They simply have never done so.
    [quote]Models and simulations are critical to the IPCC’s case for man-made warming but in its Third Assessment
    Report (TAR) the IPCC admitted that the level of scientific understanding (LSU) of 7 of 11 climate factors
    was “very low” and that for another the LSU was “low”[/quote]

    No wonder he does not want to talk about the failed models… Err I mean “Tricks”.

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