Pope ponders paganism

paganNot since the rule of Emperor Constantine, during the Roman Warm Era, have pagan gods been tolerated in Rome.

Before Constantine, Romans worshipped 12 main gods, including Apollo (the Sun), Diana (the Moon), Flora (the plants), Uranus (the sky), Ceres (the crops), Gaia (the Earth), and of course Bacchus (wine), Venus (love), and Mars (war). Some of these gods demanded tribute and sacrifice.

Christianity, the worship of one forgiving God, slowly absorbed or eliminated its pagan rivals. The popes in Rome came to lead a Catholic empire of Christians.

In modern times, the old Greek/Roman goddess Gaia has been resurrected by the world green movement.

Pope Francis seems to seek an alliance with these nature-worshipers. Unfortunately, the green wolf will never lie down with the Christian lambs.

Christians promote care for humanity, especially the weak and the poor. The Gaia-worshippers have subordinated humans to “nature,” and their attitude to other humans ranges from contempt to deep hatred. Under their extremist Agenda 21, the priests of Gaia would sacrifice humans by restricting their access to land, oceans, food, minerals, and energy, and then concentrate the survivors in soul-destroying dormitory cities and food factories. Greens want all descendants of Adam and Eve expelled from our Gardens of Eden.

Christians generally value individual freedom and private property. The green priesthood will not rest until there is a world government in which there is no private property and all humans are numbered, controlled, and planned. They are using climate alarmism to achieve these goals.

Priests and pontiffs have no place dictating questions of science and engineering. Climate forecasts and energy policy should be determined by scientific enquiry and sound engineering, not by high priests dabbling in politics.

UN Launches Major New Agenda. Pope to attend:
http://agenda21news.com/2015/05/in-september-the-un-launches-a-major-sustainable-development-agenda-for-the-entire-planet/

An Open letter to Pope Francis on Climate Change:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/05/10/an-open-letter-to-pope-francis-on-climate-change/

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    Will Scribe

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    “…..Faith drives religion,
    No facts are required,
    A theological belief
    Keeps followers inspired;
    It’s a pity that science
    Has no part to play,
    But religion is religion
    At the end of the day.”

    From “Global Warming and The Catholic Church”
    Read more: http:///wp.me/p3KQlH-K3

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      Me

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      Exactly, no wonder people are calling AGW/ACC a religion, as it’s pretty much following the same lines of blame and shame and pay your penitence for your sins.

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    GR82DRV

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    It really is incredible that the Pope seems to think he can build an alliance with Gaia worshipers.

    Karl Marx said, [i]”The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope”.[/i] Clearly the people driving the climate change movement have the same attitude toward the Roman Catholic Church.

    [i]“Evil always wins through the strength of its splendid dupes; and there has in all ages been a disastrous alliance between abnormal innocence and abnormal sin.” [/i]
    ― G.K. Chesterton, Eugenics and Other Evils: An Argument Against the Scientifically Organized State

    The Pope could be forgiven as such a dupe if he were not trusted and sworn for such a high purpose.

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    Danny Heim

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    Hey I’m gonna be talking to this Viv Forbes here. I need to explain to you Viv you are only partially right about this pagan/gaia thingy. Yeah see you made this statement:

    “The Gaia-worshippers have subordinated humans to “nature,” and their attitude to other humans ranges from contempt to deep hatred.”
    and this
    “he priests of Gaia would sacrifice humans by restricting their access to land, oceans, food, minerals, and energy, and then concentrate the survivors in soul-destroying dormitory cities and food factories. Greens want all descendants of Adam and Eve expelled from our Gardens of Eden.”

    I’m really not sure you know the ‘tell’ you are giving with those statements. first off, you are so wrong about pagans it ain’t even funny. But that’s forgivable because most pagans today, at least in the developed world, don’t know that their doing either.

    Paganism is about food and water, it was started for the reason of harvest and fertility. And really, it ain’t about much else, at the fundamental level anyway. Many pagans in the developed world get into this religion cuz it feels good, it’s cool, which is just about as crazy as Christians getting into Jesus cuz they’re afraid of hell.

    And the tell you are giving is that you, my lady, have a huge prejudice problem. You seem to be saying that if you ain’t Christian, then get off my planet. Well maybe that’s a bit strong but something like that. Of course you are justified within yourself cuz you gots the Lord telling you what’s up; good luck with that. In any case, if you wanna know something about modern paganism for what it really is, I’ll be happy to correct your thinking as I am pretty much a true pagan. But it sure ain’t a conspiracy to take away your babies and kick you outta some garden. LOL!!

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    Danny Heim

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    Hey I gotta talk about this Pope just a bit. I see all the conservative Christians out there all het-up about him and thinking he’s some kinda anti-christ or something. But the truth is he is probably displaying the teaching of Jesus more than any Christian I’ve ever seen, he’s amazing that way. He really is the hope for the Christian religion who got itself all tangled up in politics the last 20 years or so and didn’t know what the hell they were talking about but are now too far in to back off without looking dumber than they already are. If you are a Christian, I’d listen real close to him and stop listening to nuts like Pat Robertson and such.

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      amirlach

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      Got news for you Hiemy! The church’s got “tangled up” in politics millennia ago.

      That he has subscribed to another faith based political ideology is not suprising really. I doubt he has heard of Occams Razor or the Null Hypothesis.

      http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/02/occams-razor-the-null-hypothesis-and-anthropogenic-global-warming.php

      Ironic fact?
      [quote]Occam’s razor is a problem-solving principle devised by William of Ockham, who was an English Franciscan friar and scholastic philosopher and theologian.[/quote]

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        Danny Heim

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        Wow, you know so much, amirlach. I’m very impressed.
        But let me be a little more clear about that statement about the Christians getting too involved the last 20 years or so with politics. THE TEA PARTY…there that should do it. And if it don’t then you are dumber than I thought you were.

        And if you call me Hiemy again I’ll hunt you down and call you am-a-lacky. Which you are, yeah, you’re my lacky cuz so far you’ve proven to be exactly that.

        Wanna keep going? It ain’t gonna get any better. You wanna keep making an idiot of yourself I’ll play and watch.

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          JayPee

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          High-me knows so much and everyone else, so little.
          Euphoric delusions of grandeur and profundity.
          What narcotics are your passion, High-me baby ?

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            Danny Heim

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            I now what you mean JayPee, all this power has made me dizzy, I think..thin…th..I….faint…

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            Danny Heim

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            LOL, yeah, I think you right…but it was fun, don’t forget to have fun.

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            amirlach

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            This post sums it up nicely.
            [quote]AlexG
            Posted: Feb 20 2013, 10:34 PM

            Quote

            Advanced Member
            *****

            Group: Power Member
            Posts: 5661
            Joined: 8-September 06

            Positive Feedback: 73.91%
            Feedback Score: 108

            QUOTE (Danny Heim @ Feb 20 2013, 04:57 PM)
            how so…why?

            Danny, everything you’re posting is simply nonsense. There’s too much nonsense and too many cranks here to bother with you.

            Nothing you’re saying has anything to do with physics, nor does it describe, in any way, how the universe works.

            So to engage you is futile, because you know nothing, and then demand to be shown how you know nothing.

            This post has been edited by AlexG on Feb 20 2013, 10:35 PM

            [/quote]

            After Hiemy cracked Gravity, he moved on to solving the worlds economic and enviromental problems with socialisim.

            Now he is skooling us about Globull Whermin! 😀

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            Danny Heim

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            Oh I’ve made bigger idiot days than that my friend, let me tell ya.

            PS– I love you too.

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            Danny Heim

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            Oh wait a minute, I thought your link was to my blog where I have that writing on gravity. Oh no, that time wasn’t fun, good catch.
            If you are looking for things like this about me (I understand cuz your obsessed with me now) go look at what I did at a lawyer site where you get free advice. I made a complete idiot of myself there. Got kicked off, the whole bit. Probably could find it by searching “danny heim, law site”, something like that.

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            amirlach

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            Uhh.. Nope! Really cannot be bothered.

            This is about as far down that rabbit hole as I want to peer. Your rambling incoherent manifesto is really a cry for help.(Word Salad as one guy on the physics thread said) You should seek some help before you head into full Unabomber Manifesto territory.

            https://dannyheim.wordpress.com/2015/04/01/mr-rights-emotional-disorder/

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        Danny Heim

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        Hey am-a-lacky (I like that, so you can call me Hiemy now). Yeah I saw that you want to see my site, yeah sure, go, have a ball. But I’ll warn you, if you read too much of it you’ll never escape my power. Just sayn’ is all, you been warned.
        But also know that if you comment on my site, you’d better behave, none the crap of name calling and all that, or I’ll ban you so fast your head will spin. I wouldn’t put up with that crap like this place does.
        https://dannyheim.wordpress.com/2012/10/05/evolve-now-2/

        Now here

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          JayPee

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          AWWW BOY

          Your site must be a cite
          and you cite your sight.

          Is it best viewed thru hindsight ?

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            amirlach

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            Actually when you look at who replies to Danny’s “Posts”, it’s mostly Danny citing himself. 😀

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          amirlach

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          So you would not put up with you? 😀

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            Danny Heim

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            In that case absolutely not. I was clearly an idiot, I know when I’ve made a mistake. Do you? Do you think you are doing something today, right this minute, that you will always feel good about for the rest of your life? If so, keep digging and you will be rewarded I’m sure. We do what makes us happy, ya know? 🙂

            find the lawyer thing yet, lacky?

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            amirlach

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            Actually, while I have been working on a design in Solid Works,(doing something I will feel good about) I have been following -this- on my other comp. Mostly for entertainment value. So yeah… Whatever!

            Seems what makes you happy is being an annoying, bitter troll.

            As for being your Lacky? I really can’t care to bother looking up your trolling of some lawyer site.

            [quote]But that’s about all I’ve adjusted to. Otherwise, I am nearly clinically depressed, I suffer physical symptoms as well, I have no social life, without friends I continually feel as though I am no one in this world, I am not in the success game and even though I know why I sometimes feel like a looser, and the loneliness becomes unbearable at times. Finally, there’s the anger and bitterness. I’m sure you’ve picked it up in me thus far. The frustration of not being able to get free of the system’s grip really gets to pissing me off. I’ve come to understand it more, but only recently.[/quote]

            A cry for help if I ever heard one. Seek help Danny.

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            Danny Heim

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            Hey I’m back here for one reason, amirlach, I don’t care what you post about me but please when you are doing that would you please have the decency to ALSO POST THE LINK! Man dude, you are a low life. Your quotes are so out of context it ain’t funny. Do thins one more time without reference the source and I’m going to have to contact the management here, seriously. You are doing something serious, you are slandering and so don’t take it lightly. Post the source every time you quote, in every comment, PLEASE! When you’re gonna slander, do it right.

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            amirlach

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            So quoting your -own- words is now slander? Or only because I never linked back to your blog so you get a bigger pingback count?

            http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/slander

            Please contact the “Management” if it bothers you so much.

            You come here to be an annoyance and an admitted troll, then can’t handle it when things do not go your way. Your “Lacky’s” are in in open revolt. 😀

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            amirlach

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            And as ever Tom, if you feel you need to delete my posts to clean up these threads do not hesitate.

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    Danny Heim

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    hint, hint, hint, see, the hint, see?

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    Danny Heim

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    Well I learn something every time I come here. Thank you all so much for putting up with me, however, that is exactly what “you” did, put up with me. You got yourselves to blame. To JayPee and am-a-lacky, I know it’s been a rough thing here, wasn’t all fun for me either. Lotta stings, some real under the table stuff (amirlach) with slander…but, still got a lot out of it, truly. see ya

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      amirlach

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      We also have learned something.

      Getting a look inside the mind of a Climate Alarmist. One always wonders how those on the Left can be so willfully in denial of the stark reality that refutes their “faith”.

      Astounding that one who has never even read or understood the basic idea of the scientific method thinks he can figure out Gravity. 😮

      Good Luck buddy.

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    Danny Heim

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    OK I’ve decided to do a blog article, I am just going to link to this and the other article that we’ve been engaged in. If anyone really has a strong objection then just say so, but I don’t know why you would. It will be called Anger Addiction: It’s Why We Fight

    https://dannyheim.wordpress.com/2015/05/17/anger-addiction-its-why-we-fight/

    It’s just the title right now, but I might and should be done today, we’ll see.

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    prestigio

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    dannheim
    is the latest
    edition of druuuskii

    new façade
    same crap
    nothing to say

    but loves the attention
    regardless how negative

    needs to be acknowledged
    for his empty existence

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        amirlach

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        And you still completely miss the fact that “anger addiction” has nothing to do with why no one agrees with you.

        Your in denial of the facts and simply projecting -your- anger onto others.

        Like my post you use as an example of my “anger”. It was simply stating facts. Facts you were trying very hard to ignore and run away from.

        To admit so would of course destroy this quasi religious, socialist ideology you have constructed to hide from the real world in.

        Your idea that everyone should adopt some kind of socialist, utopian/ agrarian lifestyle because of Climate Change that is based upon an invalidated hypothesis is simply a cover, so you do not have to admit your failures.

        Thanks, but no thanks! Move to North Korea.

        I’ll get up in the morning and go to work, then enjoy my well earned success without feeling any guilt or self loathing.

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        Steve

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        I have no issue with anger addiction – as long as they have no issue with my robust self defence addiction……

        meh.

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