Obama Moves To Regulate CO2 From Airplanes

airplaneFirst tailpipes, then power plants and now airplanes. The Obama administration announced another major effort to regulate carbon dioxide emissions from airplanes after the Environmental Protection Agency linked airliners to global warming.

The EPA issued a proposal Wednesday declaring that CO2 from airliners threatens public health because it contributes to global warming. The agency says it’s doing this in conjunction with an international effort to bring the airline industry under global carbon dioxide standards for commercial jets.

Republicans have already vowed to challenge the EPA’s proposal to regulate airline emissions, saying new federal regulations would increase travel costs and fuel prices.

“The sky is the limit when it comes to how much of the U.S. economy the EPA wants to control,” Texas Republican Rep. Lamar Smith said in a statement.

“The EPA today released a finding that emissions from commercial airplanes are harmful to human health, which opens the door for new regulations,” Smith added. “Such regulations would increase the price of airfare for Americans and harm our domestic carriers.”

Environmentalists, on the other hand, celebrated the news, arguing regulating airline emissions is necessary to fighting global warming.

“With today’s announcement, President Obama has a unique and extremely important opportunity to demonstrate leadership not only domestically but around the world,” William Becker, executive director of the National Association of Clean Air Agencies, told The New York Times.

The EPA says international rules over airline emissions are expected to be completed in 2016, adding that the U.S. proposal will set “the necessary foundation for the development and implementation of a domestic aircraft standard.”

This marks another major effort by the Obama administration to “green up” the U.S.’s image ahead of United Nations climate talks in Paris slated for later this year. The administration also recently announced carbon dioxide standards for heavy trucks and is set to finalize CO2 limits for power plants this summer.

The EPA says airliners “emit roughly 11 percent of [greenhouse gas] emissions from the U.S. transportation sector and 29 percent of [greenhouse gas] emissions from all aircraft globally.”

“Today’s action supports the goals of the President’s Climate Action Plan to reduce emissions from large sources of carbon pollution,” the agency said in a press release.

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    Dan Pangburn

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    The EPA is killing prosperity while, in this case, having no influence whatsoever on climate.

    Change to the level of atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2) does not cause climate change. The science is solid. Changing the numbers hasn’t hidden the proof. Only existing data [Phanerozoic (last 542 million years) and current ice age] and a grasp of the fundamental relation between physics and math are needed or used.

    Average global temperature changes as a transient responding to the time-integral of the net of forcings. Atmospheric carbon dioxide has always been at least 190 ppmv. If CO2 was a forcing, average global temperature would have increased fairly steadily from any start time. Because average global temperature did not increase (Hieb 2009, Veizer et al 2000), CO2 cannot be a forcing and therefore has no influence on climate.

    See more on the proof that CO2 has no effect on climate and discover what does cause climate change (explains 97+% average global temperatures since before 1900) at .http://agwunveiled.blogspot.com

    The two factors that do cause reported average global temperature change are also identified in a peer reviewed paper published in Energy and Environment, vol. 25, No. 8, 1455-1471.

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    Amber

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    The EPA is showing it’s true colors and they aren’t red ,white ,and blue . Enjoy it while you can get away with it EPA your agency is in for a very hard landing as are the parasites who you support .

    Any more John Beale clones hiding out in the EPA ?

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    Moose

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    So the greens are out to kill everyone by removing CO2 from the atmosphere???

    Its about time we stop these lunatics now and forever!

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      Drewski

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      Dan Pangburn: “Change to the level of atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2) does not cause climate change. The science is solid.”

      Yeah, sure it is. Your science is so solid that NOT ONE earth, space or atmospheric scientific organization and NOT ONE peak scientific organization like the Royal Society or the NSF foundation on this planet agrees with you.

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        JayPee

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        Perennial punching – bag Andrejeweski has returned.

        Try not to pile on too hard guys. Remember, he has totalitarian sensitivities.

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        Dan Pangburn

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        It will be interesting to watch them try to rationalize the coming decline in reported average global temperatures.

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          Drewski

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          *360 consecutive months where each and every months had a higher temperature than that month’s (February or May or whichever) 20th century average.
          *Recent periods of sustained and deep solar minimums coinciding with record setting hot years.
          *An El Nino on its way and Arctic ice is reaching record-setting minimums.

          But Dan Pangburn thinks these are precursors for “the coming decline in reported average global temperatures.”

          This is what passes for “solid science’ in sCeptic Land.

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            GR82DRV

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            So Drewski, are there ANY dire sky-is-falling, hair-on-fire climate change warnings that you have not accepted hook-line-and-sinker?

            Politically motivated AGW schemers are no different than all those apocalyptic religious cults that are certain [i]they[/i] know when and how Armageddon will occur, telling us all to get in line and accept their wild mandates.

            Jehovah’s Witnesses predicted Armageddon for 1878, 1881, 1914, 1918, 1925, and 1975… Each time they adjusted their estimates and re-framed the debate to meet their next prediction. Sound familiar?

            My personal favorite, the Heaven’s Gate cult, predicted Armageddon resulting from an alien spacecraft following the Hale-Bopp comet in 1979. When that failed to materialize Marshal Applewhite (their version of Al Gore) convinced his eunuch followers to commit mass suicide.

            This is just a heads-up to rethink expectations in case Master Al asks his followers to emasculate themselves or to stock up on Kool-Aid…

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            Gator

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            Hey GR82DRV! The past 360 months of my life, I have been taller than the average of my lifetime.

            Adults today can expect to be 12 feet tall bt the year 2075.

            [img]https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/cdtwfoaveaasylj.png[/img]

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            Drewski

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            Gay Gay Gator is seriously trying to score points by making the analogy that the earth is like a living person that starts from a seed, becomes a baby, grows up and finally a shrunken man.

            Another example of “solid” sCeptic science.

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            Me

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            And coolwhip denies reality yet again.52g5y

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            Gator

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            The liar in chief now misrepresents the graph above, which clearly states that it is analogy of alarmist thought, and not the Earth.

            Lies are all Drewski has to defend his sad religion.

            [i]# Drewski 2015-02-03 08:22
            Gator has been given many and over many periods. He is just too dense too understand them. I have never stated that natural variability does not exist, however, it is being overwhelmed by man-made forcings. ALL scientific organizations (as in every single one) that carries out original research understands and accepts this.

            # Gator 2015-02-03 09:31
            Just for once, please provide EVEN ONE peer reviewed paper refuting NV as the cause of recent, or any, global climate changes.
            Go on smart guy, do it! 😀
            Remember, every scientist agrees with you and the science is settled. Right? So obviously it’s out there. Right? 😀

            # Drewski 2015-02-03 11:06
            Dementia it is. Poor fellow. They say doing simple physical tasks can sometimes delay the onset.
            What about calling your old pal, Morner, for a bit of dousing?

            # Gator 2015-02-03 11:13
            So you failed yet again. Do you ever tire of me pulling out that football Charlie Brown? 😀
            Paper please!

            # Drewski 2015-02-03 12:51
            Perhaps we can try hypnosis through the internet again?
            Ready, set, you are getting sleepy, sleepy. . .
            You are now back at your computer again in that dark and danky room . . . Drewski has made yet another witty riposte . . . . you are scrambling for a coherent thought. . . . oh no, here comes another 4 studies about the effect of CO2. . . you pretend to not see them. . . you ask Drewski for the same thing again like a brain dead zombie. . .
            Remember now?

            # Gator 2015-02-03 12:57
            Where is your ‘buddy’? 😀
            Better yet, where is that paper?

            # Drewski 2015-02-03 13:08
            Gator,
            If you can’t figure out show laces, then let someone who does tie them for you.
            And if you can’t fathom a scientific study, then let a scientist explain it to you.
            Remember, its not your fault you have a learning disability.

            # Gator 2015-02-03 13:12
            Unlike you Confusedski, I don’t need to have them explained to me. In case you are incapable of recalling recent years, I had to explain to you that your ‘proof’ was nothing more than models.
            I’m sure your imaginary friend is most impressed with your childish insults.
            Paper please! 😀

            # Drewski 2015-02-03 13:25
            Lying again Gator. What models?
            Being dense and a liar may make you a true blue sCeptic but, in the end, you are just another sCeptic destined to be an object of ridicule from future generations.

            # Gator 2015-02-03 13:27
            What paper? liar.
            You are a joke.

            # Drewski 2015-02-03 19:30
            As usual One Trick, you misunderstand. Gator lied when he said those dozen or so scientific papers I have given him over the years were models — they weren’t.

            # Gator 2015-02-03 19:42
            Go ahead and repost the papers [u][i][b]liar[/b][/i][/u]. [/i]

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            Me

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            The Douche gave you a link way back, I tried to get you to look at it, it was a BS link that you had to pay to see. Suddenly you have tp pay to see the science your taxes paid for. That was what I was trying to tell you what these pricks are doing, and Douche whip was being the the whipping boy he is. They better hope the system doesn’t collapse, it’s on their heads. It’s been going down this road for way more than 25 years.

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            Gator

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            He has tried that before, and the papers never disprove NV, noone ever has. This is what makes him such a liar.

            I actually preferred it when he used to provide papers, because then I could point out exactly [i]why[/i] they do [i]not[/i] disprove NV, and why he is such an idiot.

            Of course it all boils down to this. Everything we are seeing is well within natural boundaries, and noone can list [i]all[/i] climate forcings, order them from most to least effective, and then [i]quantify[/i] them.

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            Drewskii

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            Gay Gay Gator: “I actually preferred it when he used to provide papers, because then I could point out exactly why they do not disprove NV, and why he is such an idiot.”

            So NOW you say I did provide papers. Hmm. Does that make you a liar now or were you lying before?

            It is so hard to tell on this website what is an “honest” lie or simply an incompetent lie when your daily sustenance are articles written by such incompetent hacks.

            In any case, it is a certainty that Gator wouldn’t recognize what evidence is even when he is gagging on it.

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            Gator

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            Just like the idiot you are, you said you “provided papers” and that could make me a liar, as if that were my [i]only [/i]request. Here is the entire request…

            [quote]Please provide even one peer reviewed paper [b]that refutes natural variability[/b] as the cause of recent, or any, global climate changes.[/quote]

            So once again Cool Whip, all you have done here is prove that you are lying little worm.

            And BTW, keep up the gay slurs, it makes you so much more scientific.

            Congratulations! 😆

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            Drewski

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            Everything I mentioned was documented OBSERVATIONS .”Religious cults” is more in the domain of people like you who rattle on about Jehovah’s Witnesses, Heaven’s Gate and Armageddon.

            You should brush up on your comprehension skills.

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            Gator

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            Branch Carbonians think the Earth was created in 1901?

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            JayPee

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            ON – JEE – EZZ – KEE

            well on his way to become a tenth time proven liar.

            It doesn’t matter, it’s the recognition that counts.

            No matter how negative or degrading.

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            Drewski

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            You left out accurate, clever and handsome.

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            GR82DRV

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            [quote name=”Drewski”]Everything I mentioned was documented OBSERVATIONS .”Religious cults” is more in the domain of people like you who rattle on about Jehovah’s Witnesses, Heaven’s Gate and Armageddon.

            You should brush up on your comprehension skills.[/quote]

            Whoa!… Rush me to the burn unit!

            So, lock-step acceptance of ever changing dooms day predictions, the focus on social justice issues (rather than science), links to new-age Gaianism, absurd assertions of “settled science, and proclamations that “[b]deniers[/b]” of AGW should be [i]punished[/i] all have nothing in common with crazy religions?

            So what flavor of Kool-Aid are you being told to buy?

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            Drewski

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            What a bunch of unconnected mishmash that has nothing whatsoever to do with real world observations.

            Do you have a brother named “me”?

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            Me

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            Yeah, because fantasy bullshit is named coolwhippppppy.

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            Me

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            Anything else thar Coolwhip?

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            Me

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            Yeah, don’t think for a minute that because I told others here that I’ll let them deal with the likes of your kind for will stand, yeah that ain’t gona happen.

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            Me

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            I don’t expect them to trust Me either, but I’ll say we all don’t trust your kind.

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            Me

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            So how many of your kind use your name here coolwhip? because you don’t seem to be the same person all the time?????

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            Drewski

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            me: “Yeah, don’t think for a minute that because I told others here that I’ll let them deal with the likes of your kind for will stand, yeah that ain’t gona happen.”

            Seek help.

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            Me

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            Really, and yet here you are? 😀

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            Me

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            Ok now what are you going to do thar coolwhips, meaning more than one of you….

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            Me

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            Ya see you have been caught yet again with your bullshit. 😀

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            Me

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            You or one of you were using me over at WUWT? Didn’t you? I know I had my say with a certain person there, but someone else was doing something different, and I rarely there. And that leaves it in your ballpark.

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            Me

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            I rarely post there.

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            Me

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            I always said, and was the one that said I support what Anthony was doing. Apparently not giving my E addy wasn’t enough. But it in hind site it doesn’t matter any more. People know! 😉

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            Me

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            So droolwhipski, spare Me the “seek help” bullshit you jackoff douche that you are and your kind. You have been caught lying multiple times, you have been caught trying to be someone here, Gator, and I caught you doing that.

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            Me

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            But you people keep it up. You know no matter how much garbage this climate bullshit is it ito go through anyhow, but is isn’t what you think it is. It’s just another tax you POSes suppoeted and it’s going nowhere. Because it was painted as a save the planet garbage. The planet isn’t going anywhere, we all are, and it’s just a matter goes first, and who is last. And I doubt you or Me are on the last list. Just like everyone else.

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            Me

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            Here. I’ll say it again.

            But you people keep it up. You know, no matter how much garbage this climate bullshit is, it’s going go through anyhow, but is isn’t what you think it is. It’s just another tax you POSes piece of shits) supported and it’s going nowhere. Because it was painted as a save the planet garbage. It will be spent on plun de nome via soup de jour, like always. The planet isn’t going anywhere, we all are, and it’s just a matter goes first, and who is last. And I doubt you or Me are on the last list. Just like everyone else. The shit storm will start when you pricks realize it.

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            Me

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            I tried to correct what I said here but it is what it is Sorry.

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            Drewski

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            Incomprehensible blogging done in a Turrets Syndrome style.

            Yet more “solid” sCeptic science.

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            Me

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            Yeah, Coolwhip, you should know! 😀

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            Drewski

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            “me” in his own words:
            “The planet isn’t going anywhere, we all are, and it’s just a matter goes first, and who is last. And I doubt you or Me are on the last list. Just like everyone else.”

            Jibber jabber.

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            Me

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            Yeah, again you would know, you are the jibber jabber expert, Cool Whip! But you’ll be around forever, err so I’m told, the cockroaches will inhert the earth. 😀

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            JayPee

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            Nothing worth saying.
            A conflagration of lies.
            Thrives on attention.
            No matter how negative.

            Pan drooooskee has arrived
            in full esplandure

            Tenth time proven liar. But loves being the perennial punching bag because it is the recognition and attention that he so desperately needs.

            Hey, we’ll provide the strokings and he will gleefully be insulted and degraded to the end because he has been recognized.

            As what is of no materiality. It’s the acknowledgement that counts.

            Recognize what we’re dealing with.

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            Gator

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            Please provide even one peer reviewed paper [i]that refutes natural variability[/i] as the cause of recent, or any, global climate changes.

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            amirlach

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            [quote]*360 consecutive months where each and every months had a higher temperature than that month’s (February or May or whichever) 20th century average. [/quote]
            Lie.
            [img]http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/images/pics7/graph-showing-no-global-warming-for-18-years.png[/img]
            This is not what was “predicted” by the invalidated CAGW “hypothesis”.

            [quote]*Recent periods of sustained and deep solar minimums coinciding with record setting hot years.[/quote]
            Lie.
            [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Sunspot_Numbers.png/350px-Sunspot_Numbers.png[/img]
            Recent periods of sustained and deep solar minimums coinciding with record setting flat line temperatures.
            [img]http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/images/pics7/graph-showing-no-global-warming-for-18-years.png[/img]

            [quote]*An El Nino on its way and Arctic ice is reaching record-setting minimums.[/quote]
            Lie.
            “Meanwhile, here in the actual world, Arctic sea ice continues to track 2006 – the year with the highest summer minimum of the past decade.”
            [img]http://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/ScreenHunter_9516-Jun.-13-00.38.gif[/img]
            http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/old_icecover.uk.php

            According to the Cult Carbonian’s sacred text. Time began in 1979. Because arctic ice extent was at a peak.
            [img]https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/screenhunter_8822-apr-30-06-28.gif[/img]
            “Below is an image from the Nimbus 5 satellite, taken in January 1976 – which shows how detailed the imagery was. NSIDC has no excuse for not using it. It was used in both the IPCC FAR and SAR reports.”
            [img]https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/screenhunter_9237-may-14-03-48.gif[/img]
            https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2015/05/14/more-on-the-arctic-ice-satellite-scam/

            Anecdotal evidence and UN-truth is what passes for “solid science’ in Apparatchik Land.

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            Me

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            Again Coolwhip, you should know, you and your kind specialise in that kind of B$! 😆

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    JB

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    The solution is simple. Ground all aircraft in the US and issue bicycles to all government employees, politicians and especially the EPA. The term ‘on yer bike’ would then have a real meaning.

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      Me

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      But you people” keep it up.” You know, no matter how much garbage this climate bullshit is, it’s going go through anyhow, but is isn’t what you think it is. It’s just another tax you POSes piece of shits) supported and it’s going nowhere. Because it was painted as a save the planet garbage. It will be spent on plun de nome via soup de jour, like always. The planet isn’t going anywhere, we all are, and it’s just a matter goes first, and who is last. And I doubt you or Me are on the last list. Just like everyone else. When the shit storm will starts, I doubt you pricks will realize it

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    Dan Pangburn

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    The analysis which shows what causes climate change is not complex:
    1. Establish a least-biased assessment of all reported measured average global temperatures (AGT).
    2. From examination of historical AGT and historical solar cycles, form the hypothesis that a relation exists between sunspot numbers and the planet warming and cooling.
    3. From examination of historical AGT and other information, determine that ocean cycles contribute to AGT and the effect of ALL ocean cycles on AGT can be approximated by a saw-tooth function with period 64 years and amplitude of approximately ±1//5 K (to be determined more precisely later).
    4. Apply the first law of thermodynamics (conservation of energy) to obtain an equation relating the historical measurements. Incorporate coefficients on each term in the equation to facilitate optimizing the equation to best match the calculated temperature anomalies to the measured temperature anomalies.
    5. Apply the mathematics of coefficient of determination, R2, to compare the calculated temperature anomalies to historical measured temperature anomalies.
    6. Adjust the coefficients in the equation alternately and repeatedly to obtain the absolute maximum R2. This results in R2 greater than 0.90 irrespective of whether the influence of CO2 is included or not and an equation which predicts a future down trend in average global temperatures.
    7. After Schwartz (2007) and other considerations, rapid (year-to-year) variations in reported average temperatures contain substantial random uncertainty as to the true energy content of the planet. This uncertainty is substantially removed by taking a running average of reported measurements. A 5-year running average increases R2 to greater than 0.97 leaving less than 3% to explain all factors not explicitly considered such as volcanos, aerosols, measurement errors, noncondensing greenhouse gases (the average sunspot number is a proxy accounting for average water vapor, the sunspot number anomaly is a proxy which accounts for cloud variations), difference from assumed wave form of ocean cycles, ice change, etc.

    This analysis, along with independent proof that CO2 has no effect on average global temperature (and therefore no effect on climate) is at http://agwunveiled.blogspot.com .

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    Drewskii

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    You have admitted I have produced papers in the past (multiple times as a matter of fact) so now the only question is whether it was evidence for AGW.

    On the one hand we have every earth, space and atmospheric science organization (plus many many more eminent societies) who accept that it was, indeed, evidence for AGW.

    And on the other hand we have the “eminent” Gator — a person who employs a graph on the life stages of a man — as evidence against AGW.

    Now this same person accuses me of being a liar because, IN HIS OPINION, the papers I submitted were not the evidence he requested.

    Logical people (not often found here on CCD but found in the real world) will make up their own mind on who the real idiot is.

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      Gator

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      Once again moron, you are the party who claimed you could produce a peer reviewed paper that refutes NV, and then never did.

      And once again, the chart not in question is not evidence against AGW, but an example of the idiocy of alarmists.

      Your stupidty and dishonesty are on display once again, because you do not know when to STFU.

      Keep digging Cool Whip! 😆

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        Gator

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        More willful ignorance from the liar in chief.

        Please provide even one peer reviewed paper [i]that refutes natural variability[/i] as the cause of recent, or any, global climate changes.

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