Bill Nye Just Gave The Stupidest Definition of ‘Science’ Ever

On Tuesday, Bill Nye, The Science Guy Who Is Not A Scientist, decided to define what science is with one badly-considered aphorism:

Say what?

Remember, this is the same guy who hosted a Netflix special called Bill Nye Saves The World, in which Crazy Ex-Girlfriend actress Rachel Bloom, given a glowing endorsement by Nye, sang, “My vagina has its own voice / Not vocal cords, a metaphorical voice / Sometimes I do a voice for my vagina.”

Let’s make a list of what Nye would consider “science,” beliefs from some that they are “solving the problem”:

Telling a young male child who likes dolls instead of toy soldiers that he’s really a girl, and arranging for his transitioning to another gender;

Deciding that those who don’t practice your particular form of Radical Islam should be eradicated;

Stealing money from the wealthy, who have earned it, so that those who are not earning as much can level the playing field;

Taking religion out of the public square so that those inconvenient unborn children can be properly dealt with so they don’t complicate the lives of their mothers.

Why, there are all sorts of wonderful beliefs like these that can now be called science!

Of course, a true definition of science, such as, “The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment,” is not about belief, but rather process.

Belief is the engine that starts the scientific process, but science is the active process by which belief is tested.

Besides, if science is “belief that you can solve the problem,” here’s one example of Nye’s kind of science: In April 2016, Nye posited that those who didn’t believe in climate change could go to jail, asserting:

Was it appropriate to jail the guys from Enron? We’ll see what happens. Was it appropriate to jail people from the cigarette industry who insisted that this addictive product was not addictive, and so on? In these cases, for me, as a taxpayer and voter, the introduction of this extreme doubt about climate change is affecting my quality of life as a public citizen. So I can see where people are very concerned about this, and they’re pursuing criminal investigations as well as engaging in discussions like this.

So how about this proposition for Nye: I believe I can solve the problem of great stupidity by proclaiming him too dumb to be listened to.

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    Spurwing Plover

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    What right minded scientists is going around wearing a silly bow-tie anyway?

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      rakooi

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      As I told you before, he really is not so much a scientist as HE IS A TV PERSONALITY.
      My father wore a bow tie for decades…it is a perfectly acceptable form of clothing…every bit as legit. as Western String Ties.
      ..
      Regarding his definition of Science:
      There would be NO SCIENCE with out the belief that you can discover cause and change the result.

      1799
      The FIRST Postulation about Human Activities causing “climate changes” by name.

      (1st. you determine the problem, then you discover what needs to change)
      .
      1811
      The FIRST Scientific LINK of Global Warming and Human Activities.
      .
      1958
      The MAINSTREAM Scientific Community,
      in 1958, gave a Research Study & Warning to President Eisenhower
      about the unrestrained & MASSIVE Dumping of TOXIC industrial waste gasses & chemicals into our atmosphere & the climate warming Changes it causes.
      Complete with tumultuous weather changes: Cold events, Heat waves, Droughts, Rising Sea levels, & Flooding Rain events!
      Source:(The American Association for the Advancement of Science)
      .
      1965
      The Scientific Community Delivered a detail Research report in 1965 to President Johnson about the massive, unrestrained Dumping of TOXIC industrial waste gases & chemicals into our atmosphere &
      Global Warming with Climate Changes threatening our populations and economies.
      Source: AAAS
      .
      Global Warming Science PROJECTED (Spot on, accurately) Changes likely over 50 yrs. into the future (to 2015)
      PROJECTED Climate changes:
      .
      1. AS PROJECTED:
      ALL Surface digital weather station measurements register RISING Global TEMPERATURES. 2100+ (NASA NOAA) Digital Ground Stations around the world.
      PLUS!
      independent News/TV/Radio collected Tens of millions of human measures / yr. by well over 30,000 private, independently owned & operated Digital Weather stations around the world…all concurred.

      ALL Satellite measurements show that the troposphere is warming
      …& verified by HUNREDS OF THOUSANDS OF digital weather balloon launches around the world.
      .
      As Projected:
      ALL Satellite measures of the stratosphere is cooling for 52 straight YEARS, as Projected by Global Warming SCIENCE !
      as projected spot-on accurately BASED ON GLOBAL WARMING THEORY & numerous computer models in over 2 dozen countries.
      .
      (Stratospheric Cooling side by side with a Warming Troposphere “CANNOT” be explained by ANY NATURAL CYCLE !
      .
      ..If direct solar warming is responsible for Climate on earth,
      how can 1 atmospheric layer be warming while the layer closer to the sun (with a far greater Surface area exposed to the sun)
      is actually cooling???)
      …If Deniers & Skeptics are to be believed…the heat comes directly from the sun.
      ….then the Stratosphere Is FIRST IN LINE to WARM from the sun…how could IT be cooling and the next atmospheric layer, the Troposphere, be warming ….? ?
      As projected by Global Warming SCIENCE:
      Temperatures of
      the ocean surface & at various ocean depths show * warming as far down as 2000 meters
      (after thousands of years cooling)
      AS projected:
      Sea level rise gravitometric measurements of Greenland and Antarctica show net ice loss. HEADLINES: “….“The loss of ice from West Antarctica
      between 2009 and 2012 caused a dip in the gravity field over the region,”
      writes the ESA, whose GOCE satellite measured the change. Apparently, melting billions of tons of ice year after year has implications….”

      National Snow & Ice Data Center registered the ARCTIC AND ANTARCTICA set Satellite Historic Low Ice LEVELS…2016

      As Propjected:
      Ice loss in the Arctic is dramatically accelerating setting low ice records 2015, 2016 etc.**continuing a 40+-80 year trend ! Acceleration of melting glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica, particularly within the last few years.
      China reports a stunning 18% loss of Ice Packs and Glacier Ice in recent years, Citing Accelerating Global warming & Black Carbon build up from Coal electric generation locally & around the world.
      AS Projected:
      Pole-ward migration of species:

      * * The Pine Beetle, for example, has been confined to much warmer southern latitudes for thousands of years by Frigid Northern Climates.
      Today, That Beetle is found north of Fairbanks, Alaska !!

      AS Projected:
      Increased hurricane & Storms (numbers &/or intensity) as expected from rising sea surface temperatures
      & expanded surface area, with expanding evaporation..
      .
      (10 of the 15 Busiest Hurricane Seasons have occurred since 2000.)
      Accelerating decline of glaciers throughout the world
      Montana’s glacier national park had 150 in 1910 ((& in 1958 when I was there)) today, only 25 remain ! (soon to be 24)
      *
      ((( at a time when Skeptics & Deniers claim we are Plowing into a new ICE AGE,
      …that we will be knee deep in it by 2030 ! Hmmmm! )))
      As Projected:
      The rise of the troposphere altitudes
      .
      As Projected:
      Rise in temperatures at greater depths in the permafrost
      As Expected:
      Rapid expansion of thermokarst lakes throughout parts of Siberia, Canada and Alaska
      Russia reports that atmospheric temperatures in Siberia are rising at Twice the world wide average increase.
      Changes in ocean circulation as predicted by climate models, for example, with temperatures rising more quickly overland
      AS expected: Disintegration of permafrost coastlines in the arctic
      AS expected:
      Changes in the altitude of the stratosphere
      .
      ALSO, AS expected:
      An energy imbalance-the earth is receiving more energy than it emits (Hansen 2005) Verified.
      …every monthly compilation of energy readings registers the same imbalance
      …increasing energy staying within the earth’s atmosphere rather than escaping to space.
      (These findings are verified by detailed satellite data from 3 different nation’s satellites)
      .
      Poleward movement of the jet streams
      SOURCE: (Archer 2008)
      SOURCE: (Seidel 2007)
      SOURCE: (Fu 2006)
      The 270 Largest Fresh Water Lakes in the world are ALL rising in temperatures, TWICE as fast as the atmosphere.
      Algae Blooms and mass fish die-offs have doubled.
      Flooding Rain Events have far more than doubled.
      Deserts world wide are expanding.
      The Number of droughts has more than doubled AND the Square Miles affected have more than doubled.
      Heat Waves have more than Doubled.
      The world is greening, primarily at higher altitudes on mountains and in far norther latitudes
      and far southern lattitudes as snow is replaced by vegitation. So let’s remember that Snow/Ice Reflects I.R. Heat back to space
      ..but vegitation absorbs MORE heat on Earth.

      “….Robin Bell, an Antarctic researcher at the Lamont-Doherty Earth Institute at Columbia University who was not involved in the study. “Who had heard of rain in Antarctica — it is a desert!….”
      *
      ” Our ability to analyze and adapt is what makes humans the dominant species on the planet.
      Spitting on that, is spitting on what makes us, us !

      In the 70s,
      when scientists told us that CFCs used in aerosol sprays and refrigeration had punched a hole in the Ozone Layer
      and their continued use would render the planet uninhabitable to humans,
      we listened and A VERY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN banned them.
      The hole is closing and we’re safe from a world poisoned by ultraviolet radiation.
      HUMANS AFFECT the CLIMATE of EARTH.
      HUMANS can correct CLIMATE CHANGES they have caused.
      .
      https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/?

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        Sonnyhill

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        Ragout, you’re being paid for posting column inches,feet,yards. Who is paying you?

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    Sonnyhill

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    Kathleen Wynne has an extreme belief in global warming and it is affecting the quality of life for millions of innocent citizens . Doubling of electricity rates leaves less money for food and housing. Will her Green policies be a net benefit to anyone? Samsung for sure. Every green energy job created by government policy scares three jobs away. Sorry Bill Nye, your quality of life is no more important than anyone else’s.

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      rakooi

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      The doubling of electric rates is nonsense….even Rick Perry was bragging about how for the 1st time there is real competition in the energy field in Texas…cutting and controlling the constant surge in the ENERGY MONOPOLY of COAL..
      ……..until he got bought out by this aberrant administration in Washington.
      …..
      “….THE Low Costs of Solar Power
      and Wind Power and Natural GAS:
      Crush Coal Electric rates,
      Crush Nuclear Electric rates,
      even Beats Natural Gas Electric rates.

      December 25th, 2016

      “We already published a great article from Nexus Media regarding Lazard’s new report showing the extremely low (and falling) costs of solar power and wind power.

      “However, I’ve been wanting to highlight these awesome new findings since Larmion shared the updated report with us earlier this month, and I want to break out the amazing news in 5 specific ways.

      These are 5 messages that I think anyone wanting a better US economy (or a better economy in practically any country), anyone wanting national energy freedom (aka energy independence), anyone wanting to advance the most cost-effective choices for electricity generation, and anyone wanting to make logical energy decisions should know and share with others.
      ….
      “1. Wind & Solar Are Cheaper (Without Subsidies) Than Dirty KILLER COAL Energy

      The first point is the very basic fact that new wind power and/or solar power plants are typically cheaper than new coal, natural gas, or nuclear power plants — even without any governmental support for solar or wind.

      Not only are they typically cheaper — they’re much cheaper in many cases.
      ….
      2. Wind & Solar Are Actually Even Much Cheaper Than Dirty KILLER COAL Energy (More So Than Lazard Shows)

      The estimates above are supposedly “unsubsidized,” but if you include social externalities as societal subsidies (I do), the estimated costs of fossil fuels and nuclear energy are hugely subsidized in those charts.
      ….
      3. Solar & Wind Became Much Cheaper In The Past 7 Years (85% and 66%, Respectively)

      No, wind and solar costs didn’t roll off a cliff because of Obama, but his staff did help to hasten the roll to some degree. Programs like SunShot have helped to bring down costs even faster than they were coming down anyway, as did greater deployment of renewables — with greater production and deployment, costs come down almost automatically.
      ….
      4. The Lowest Solar Costs Shown In The Lazard Report Are Considerably Higher Than Globally Recorded Low-Price Bids

      I won’t go into much detail right now, but I will update this article as more record-low prices for solar power and wind power are reported. For now, though, note that we’ve seen solar project bids for under 3¢/kWh in the UAE and well under 4¢/kWh in Mexico — prices that are well below the Lazard’s low-end estimates for the US.

      ….

      People Can Get Lower Prices But More Jobs With Solar & Wind

      Whether American, British, Canadian, Australian, Indian, German, Dutch, French, Spanish, or [fill in the blank], solar and wind power don’t just mean lower prices — they also typically mean more jobs. Much of the price of dirty energy power plants is in the fossil fuel — the physical resource. When we buy that fuel, much of the money goes to the billionaires and multimillionaires who “own” the fuel — the coal mines and the natural gas wells.

      Sunshine and wind, of course, are free, but distributed solar and wind power plants have to get built and installed — those are things humans do. When we pay for solar and wind power plants, we pay for human labor, and often help create or support local jobs.

      We don’t actually have to choose between low prices or jobs or protecting our air, water, and climate — we get all of those things with renewable energy options like solar and wind energy.”

      https://cleantechnica.com/2016/12/25/cost-of-solar-power-vs-cost-of-wind-power-coal-nuclear-natural-gas/
      *
      * http://www.climatechangenew

      https://www.carbonbrief.org

      http://www.utilitydive.com/

      Even without the massive benefits of reduction of CO2 emissions, we cannot afford to not switch to renewables. The decreases in energy prices and increases in employment are crucial for the economy.
      *
      “Wind turbine payback: Environmental lifecycle assessment of 2 …
      https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/06/140616093317.htm
      Jun 16, 2014 – They conclude that in terms of cumulative energy payback, or the time to produce the amount of energy required of production and installation, a wind turbine with a working life of 20-45 years will offer a net benefit within five to eight months of being brought online.
      *
      “The problem with wind and solar is that the energy cannot be stored.” ? ?

      It is not a problem now,
      it is not a problem for the foreseeable future,
      and it will not be a problem as long as base load is managed and we have smart grids.
      .
      Also, before it does become a problem, if ever, ways will be found to solve it, like advanced nuclear plants or pumped hydro and natural gas backup.
      .
      Did you know that wind, hydroelectric, and geothermal work at night?
      .
      Did you know that some people have projected that the entire grid could be run on renewables without any base load?

      Rick Kooi Van Snyder • a few seconds ago
      ” thinkprogress.org/is-70-per……
      Apr 14, 2013 … Portugal’s electricity network operator announced that renewable … Wind turbines broke a record:
      Wind energy represented 27 percent of the …
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      Rick Kooi Van Snyder • 2 minutes ago
      ” Wind power generates 140% of Denmark’s electricity demand …
      http://www.theguardian.com/environ…...
      Jul 10, 2015 … Unusually high winds allowed Denmark to meet all of its electricity needs – with plenty to spare for Germany, Norway and Sweden too.
      .
      Rick Kooi Van Snyder • 3 minutes ago
      “The Rise of Wind Power in Texas – Scientific American
      http://www.scientificamerican.com/…...
      Apr 14, 2017 … Wind generation accounted for nearly 23 percent of power generation for the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT) in the first quarter of …

      Rick Kooi Van Snyder • 4 minutes ago
      “Wind power in Minnesota – Wikipedia
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_…
      At the end of 2016, the installed capacity for wind power in Minnesota was 3,500 megawatts (MW). Wind power generated nearly 18 percent of Minnesota’s electricity in 2016, …
      .
      Rick Kooi Van Snyder • 5 minutes ago
      “North Dakota – State Energy Profile Overview – U.S. Energy … -…
      http://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=ND
      Mar 16, 2017 … In 2016, about 71% of North Dakota’s net electricity generation came from coal, 21.5% came from wind energy, and about 5% came from …
      .
      Rick Kooi Van Snyder • 6 minutes ago
      “Iowa – State Energy Profile Overview – U.S. Energy Information…
      http://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=IA
      Mar 16, 2017 … Iowa, the largest producer of ethanol in the United States, had 25.9% of … Wind provided 36.6% of Iowa’s total electricity generation in 2016, …
      .
      Rick Kooi Van Snyder • 12 minutes ago
      “U.S. number one in the world in wind energy production
      http://www.awea.org/MediaCenter/pr...
      Feb 29, 2016 – Wind supplied Iowa with over 31 percent of its electricity last year. …”

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        Sonnyhill

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        Ontario’s electricity rates have doubled in the last ten years, which coincides with Liberal rule, 4500 wind turbines and mothballing 6,000 megawatts of coal-fired generation. They’ve admitted to their mistakes but not to their pathological lying.

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    Amber

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    Science is about belief ? Another comedy moment from Nye .
    You know when a comedian is telling scientist what science is
    things have jumped the shark .
    Stick to ball room dancing Nye .

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    Hugh

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    Hey raktool I bet you wear a bow tie as well. You seem like the sort that idolize bill bye.

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    Sonnyhill

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    Would you buy anything used from Bill Nye, the bow tie guy? Al Gore’s election platform? Going, going,gone……

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    Spurwing Plover

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    And one of those bow-ties that spins like a propellar to

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